NL 10 Q2o freeplay in BB

IsaacAsimov · #1 12-12-2006, 09:27 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($15.90)
SB ($14.55)
Hero ($20.10)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($8.40)
MP1 ($8.60)
MP2 ($19.30)
MP3 ($6.05)
CO ($3.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($0.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.2, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $0.20.

River: ($0.90) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

Final Pot: $1.90

Unknown Soldier · #2 12-12-2006, 09:28 PM

fold turn, unless you are quite sure villain does this with a J

IsaacAsimov · #3 12-12-2006, 09:31 PM

Grrr, I dunno why it edited away my comment :S.
Don't you think villain would bet potsize with a queen, to protect from a one card flush draw? The bet is weak if you ask me that is why I call. River is stronger though and I consider folding here.

Yo'Maha · #4 12-12-2006, 09:32 PM

Bet the flop. Gather information.............You have no clue where you stand here.

As played....fold.

IsaacAsimov · #5 12-12-2006, 09:44 PM

I really don't like betting here OOP with Q2o on this board in an unraised pot into 5 players. I would have check folded the flop. On the turn I feel I can pick off a bluff with showdown value that is why I called, last to act. I suppose I should fold here due to reverse implied odds actually, as I am oop.

Unknown Soldier · #6 12-12-2006, 09:47 PM

I'm not betting this flop, you wont get any info, so many diamonds and queens will call.

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Grrr, I dunno why it edited away my comment :S.
Don't you think villain would bet potsize with a queen, to protect from a one card flush draw? The bet is weak if you ask me that is why I call. River is stronger though and I consider folding here.

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people do strange things at 10NL. I dont think this is bad at all, but my prefernce is to fold. He could be doing something stupid like 33

Yo'Maha · #7 12-12-2006, 09:57 PM

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I'm not betting this flop, you wont get any info, so many diamonds and queens will call.

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Interesting.....Keep playing weak poker and you'll be in this situation often. Not knowing where you stand at all in a hand really doesn't get you anywhere in this game.

I bet the flop all day.

Yo'Maha · #8 12-12-2006, 09:58 PM

...........then Fold to the raise........

Unknown Soldier · #9 12-12-2006, 10:07 PM

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I'm not betting this flop, you wont get any info, so many diamonds and queens will call.

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Interesting.....Keep playing weak poker and you'll be in this situation often. Not knowing where you stand at all in a hand really doesn't get you anywhere in this game.

I bet the flop all day.

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o.k. you bet and 2, maybe 3 players call... uh oh. What now? c/f? thats weak!, lead the turn aswell, and the river! Oh dear one of your opponents has QT, and you've lost a big pot. Small hands small pots, big hands big pots.

IsaacAsimov · #10 12-12-2006, 10:07 PM

I do think not betting the flop in this spot is good. I don't want to play this hand in this spot. The reason why I considered playing this hand from the turn is because I am last to act and UTG seems like he is stealing. I have some shodown value so I call.

The problem I see here with betting out is that if you get called you are OOP on the turn. I think pot control is important with such a hand, but protection is too though. The problem though is that you don't want to bloat the pot with such a marginal holding.
Q2o...hello reverse implied odds.