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Old 12-12-2006, 09:13 PM
892King 892King is offline
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Default Nice Fold?

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Preflop: is with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> BEACH 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, 892king calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">892king bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333"> BEACH 3-bets</font>, 892king calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, calls, 892king calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
892king checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, BEACH calls, 892king calls.

River: (16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
892king checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> BEACH raises</font>, 892king folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7d Ad (one pair, sevens).
BEACH has 8s 8d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: wins 20 BB. </font>

I was SB and since the pot is so large, I made my mind to make a crying call. But BEACH reraised on the river when J came out and since there are a lot of preflop action in this pot, I thought I'd better fold.
But I wonder I made a correct decision.
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:31 PM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
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Default Re: Nice Fold?

I would have folded PF. And then again on the flop. And on the turn. And on the river too.

What is Beach supposed to mean? If it's a maniac, then that changes things.

You really need reads here.
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:36 PM
nickg1532 nickg1532 is offline
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Default Re: Nice Fold?

i probably fold pf here facing 3 bets OOP in the SB w/o a read
as played you can't call two cold on the river.
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Nice Fold?

[ QUOTE ]
I would have folded PF. And then again on the flop. And on the turn. And on the river too.

What is Beach supposed to mean? If it's a maniac, then that changes things.

You really need reads here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, maybe you need a little more explation.
BB was shortstack who keeps betting hoping to double up and BEACH was a kinda maniac.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:29 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Nice Fold?

Playing against maniacs can be fun, but it can be frustrating too, because this is the kind of thing that can happen in pots that aren't heads-up.

Anyway, you're in a crappy spot on the river, and it's just a question of whether you should stubbornly pay at least two and possibly four bets to show down or you should fold to two bets and possibly get shown two worse hands in a big pot.
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