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Old 12-12-2006, 10:29 AM
falcone falcone falcone falcone is offline
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Default ($11) JJ spew?

Second hand of an $11 donkament..no reads on anyone. I'm only really afraid of the OR here I think (maybe the UTG limper, but unlikely). Is this mega-spew, standard or an expert play? With the two players to act behind me, is calling and trying to take a flop better? Am I overvaluing my hand?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2000
UTG+1: t2000
UTG+2: t2000
MP1: t1960
MP2: t2120
MP3: t2000
CO: t2000
Button: t1960
SB: t1960
Hero: t2000

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises to t200</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>, MP3 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa"></font>, CO calls t200</font>, 2 folds
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Hero raises all-in to t2000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t960)</font>.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: ($11) JJ spew?

Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:51 AM
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Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.

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This hand has overpair value too, especially at an $11.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:53 AM
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Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.

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This hand has overpair value too, especially at an $11.

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It definitely does. With that many people in though play can get tricky. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:08 AM
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Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.

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Do you realize how much freakin money is in the pot?
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:13 AM
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Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.

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Do you realize how much freakin money is in the pot?

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Sure, and I also know that getting that large of a chip lead that early isn't as great as one might think considering the chances of going broke here. tight play is recommend early for a reason. If he had QQ+ this would be an easy push. JJ is boarderline and I like the conservative approach here.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: ($11) JJ spew?

he wont raise kings and aces that high utg. maybe queens, more likely jacks or tens or some weaker aces.
easy push with all the dead money.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:24 AM
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he wont raise kings and aces that high utg. maybe queens, more likely jacks or tens or some weaker aces.
easy push with all the dead money.

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I'm actually less concerned with the original raiser than I am with MP2.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:54 PM
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Don't raise allin here. If you get called, which you probably will with this many people in, you're likely a slight favorite or way behind. Call since you getting the pot odds to hit trips. If the jack doesn't come, you should get away from this hand.

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This is fine if you are closing the action, you may not get to see a flop here, and after you call here you are giving odds to UTG and UTG+1 to call behind with ATC which may crack your set if you hit it.

I think shoving here and taking a flip with this overlay is better.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: ($11) JJ spew?

I havent read thw 1131242341 replies, but with the overlay this is a shove. JJ+ AK I'd say. So much overlay
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