200nl - Bluffing a dry sidepot to iso a donk

[mason55]

Short stack is a donkey, full stack had ok stats like 20/12 or whatever. My goal is to push the big stack off a better jack on the turn to get HU with shorty who has god knows what, knowing that I have lots of outs against anything but the nuts. Also, do you guys bet $20 on the flop so that you can reraise if shorty pushes? I didn't think about it at the time but it might be good. I usually try to bet pretty big with big draws so that more money is in if they fold to a 3bet push.

Edit: I couldn't raise over shorty's push because it wasn't a full raise, so don't tell me to push the flop, I wish I could have, it would have made my life way easier and I wouldn't be posting this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $200
Button: $192.65
SB: $194
BB: $49.45

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($32, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $26</font>, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $41.45</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($156.35, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $156.35)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $150.55</font>.

[Barrin6]

If you wanted the other guy out, why didn't you shove flop??? IT would had looked stronger

[mason55]

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If you wanted the other guy out, why didn't you shove flop??? IT would had looked stronger

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I couldn't shove the flop because shorty didn't make a full raise, thus the action wasn't reopened when it came back to me. That was what my question was about in my description.

[terp]

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If you wanted the other guy out, why didn't you shove flop??? IT would had looked stronger

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i agree. your hand looks more like a draw with the second diamond hitting and then this. this isn't a traditional "bluff" of a dry sidepot and i would like it on the flop.

[goofyballer]

Hey mason, I think you should consider going all-in on the flop here

[mason55]

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Hey mason, I think you should consider going all-in on the flop here

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BOY I KNEW WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN I SAW YOU HAD REPLIED.

[Barrin6]

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Hey mason, I think you should consider going all-in on the flop here

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[KLJ]

your stats/image would be good

i think he folds a QJ hand though

[terp]

yeah the logistics of this "all in on the flop" demand that you bet $20 so his push will let you reopen the betting. it'll also look kind of crafty and cleverly planned to a 20/12 nitty tag type so he'll probably fall for it.

[mason55]

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your stats/image would be good

i think he folds a QJ hand though

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on the nitty side, like 18/15. we have only been playing a little while though and i haven't gotten out of line or been over active.