does anyone ever make checks like this?

[Josh.]

this is kind of old but i never posted it. PFR is a bad tag who will probably pay off 2 streets with TT if the turn and river brick, first caller is ken the cow, a super lag who will probably bet the turn, and the sb is nitty and straightforward postflop

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5739.90
CO: $2444.40
Hero: $2243.50
SB: $1923.50
BB: $2338

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $70</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($300, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

[Matte_Maiden]

No.

[cts]

You're on the button so you'll never be given credit for anything good. I bet small-ish usually.

[Poker_Hoar]

[ QUOTE ]
You're on the button so you'll never be given credit for anything good. I bet small-ish usually.

[/ QUOTE ]
You have to bet here because it is a sin to give free cards in this situation.

its true that people will likely put you on crap if you bet in position but are these people going to c-c the flop with a hand like A8? I can see people c-c more with 99,TT,JJ but I think people are folding A8 in a 4 way pot oop when there's a large chance they will have to face another bet on turn and/or river.

So it all comes down to the type of opponents you are playing with. Are any of them ballsy enough to c-r bluff this flop since it's so dry and it got checked to the button? If so that's a reason NOT to bet since I can't imagine anyone feeling comfortable about playing for stacks here.

For those of you who advocate this check : what types of cards do we not want to see on the turn? Aces and Kings obviously will slow us down and likely make us fold to a bet but are there any others? There's no draws except a rare gutterball (JT, J9, T9) which are not only unlikely but unlikely to be filled since you've got one jack in your hand.

Overall I don't think it really matters what you do this time here but this is definately a great spot to mix it up.

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a super lag who will probably bet the turn

[/ QUOTE ] is a really good reason to check behind here as it's unlikely people will c-c with worse hands but a lot more likely to induce a bluff

[vanHelsing]

I think this is the first real valuable post I read of you, ever. nh!