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Old 12-10-2006, 02:25 AM
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Default TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

This hand was played a few days ago, so I don't remember everything about it. Gambler2k4 is a pretty straightforward regular, about 22/16.5/2.2. So, not very aggressive and not terribly creative. I'm pretty sure I was playing my normal 26/21/3.5, so he knows that my preflop range is obviously quite large, especially in a 3-handed game.

POKERSTARS GAME #123456789: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2006/12/08 - 00:00:00 (ET)
Table 'Siwa IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: LinkyStinky ($2316.70 in chips)
Seat 3: ipokeder ($1533.65 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($600 in chips)
gambler2k4: posts small blind $3
LinkyStinky: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ipokeder [Ts Qh]
ipokeder: raises $18 to $24
gambler2k4: calls $21
niwwin joins the table at seat #5
LinkyStinky: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4c 6s]
gambler2k4: checks
LinkyStinky: checks
ipokeder: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 4c 6s] [Jh]
gambler2k4: checks
LinkyStinky: checks
ipokeder: bets $54
gambler2k4: raises $101 to $155
LinkyStinky: folds
ipokeder:

How often does this seem to be a total bluff? My flop check here is rare, but I felt like checking it here. This turn is innocuous and great to bet to get two calls out of a worse hand that wants to look me up, but his checkraise on the turn is very suspicious. It doesn't make much sense; I think he's probably a good enough player to stab the turn with a flush draw and not a bad enough player to think that he can try to checkraise again when the turn is a J, and he probably also realizes that checkraising the turn would normally fold out any hand other than JJJ or a slowplayed set...

What should I expect to see my opponent holding? Let it go or call him down?
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:52 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

I mostly bet the flop 3-handed against these guys, because I think they will frequently call me with a smaller pair and want value for my queens. Though a c/b has its merits so that they don't put you on the queen, I do it sometimes, too in order to mix up my play.

Tough decision. I base this on the general pace of the game, previous hands and my image. Against him I will call a fair time and see the River, though folding isn't a bad choice at all. Saw him making c/r against me with nothing when he thought it would take down the pot.
Based on the preflop action I put him on a flush draw (maybe he caught a pair at the turn with it). He is representing a two pair though like QJ.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

I would definitely not fold the turn (unless I had some kind of really strong read), and would wait to see what happens on the river to decide whether or not to call.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

why would I bluff this? I have a total of 21 dollars invested. What would be the point of myself risking 155 dollars with nothing, to win like 70 or 80. I had a set, obv...
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

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why would I bluff this? I have a total of 21 dollars invested. What would be the point of myself risking 155 dollars with nothing, to win like 70 or 80. I had a set, obv...

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It's 3 handed, one should be expected to bluff with a reasonable frequency.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

well, that's a stupid spot to bluff. i could understand if i 3 bet him preflop. and then proceeded to check raise.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: TP checkraised on the turn by Gambler2k4 (3/6)

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well, that's a stupid spot to bluff. i could understand if i 3 bet him preflop. and then proceeded to check raise.

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So what you are saying is that its stupid to bluff everytime your opponent (who was the PF aggressor) checks behind the flop and then bets the turn in a 3 handed game?
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