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12-09-2006, 02:24 PM
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($16t) KT call inspired by the great gigabet
I read a post by gigabet during the week. Here is the link http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...n=0&page=0
I finally got to play some poker today, and this hand came up. My play in this situation has always been a quick fold. KT is simply a weak hand that I am not willing to risk any of my precious stack on (that I need for pushboting). After reading giga's post I saw another profitable descion in this spot. Calling. Am I miss understanding the concept that Giga was trying to explain? PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t1520) UTG+1 (t4770) MP1 (t2355) CO (t1580) Button (t545) SB (t660) Hero (t2070) Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t545 (All-in)</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t660 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t460 PS: I would go into more detail why I called...but I am in a hurry... 
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#3
12-09-2006, 02:48 PM
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Re: ($16t) KT call inspired by the great gigabet
BTW - I posted the wrong link this is the post:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1 Let me explain in further detal why I called. If we fold we will have 1,870 chips. If we call and lose we will have 1,410. If we call and win we will have 3,274. Folding will leave us with 9bb, which is a healthy stack for pushbot poker. Calling and losing we leave us with 7bb, which is still enough chips to carry some decent FE. Calling and winning will put us into a command second place position and knock out 2 players. I believe the standard play in this spot is to fold. We want to preserve our chips, so that we can have the most FE possible. And we cannot possibly believe that KT is ahead in this spot often enough to make this a +cEV call. But, this is clearly a situation that it is -cEV to call but +EV because of the factors involved in the situation.
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#4
12-09-2006, 02:50 PM
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Re: ($16t) KT call inspired by the great gigabet
Maybe I am overanxious to apply the many concepts that giga was talking about...
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#7
12-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: ($16t) KT call inspired by the great gigabet
I thought I had a "good" understanding of block theory. Could someone give a breif summary of the concept?
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#10
12-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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Re: ($16t) KT call inspired by the great gigabet
mike,
this is is, sort of. i mean as far as whether or not adding these chips would help you significantly... it would. and as far as whether losing 400 additional chips would hurt you significantly... it would not. but really this is a simple pot odds questions where you simply cannot fold getting 3:1 against these 2 short stacks. plain and simple, it's a +EV call. the actual 'bock theory', as i understand it at least, is where you would find that the first 2 conditions i mentioned above apply, but the move in a vacuum is slightly -EV. the idea is that the EV you stand to gain outweighs the negative EV of the move in a vacuum. an example might be where losing a pot leaves you around the same "line" as everyone else but maybe winning it would make you chip leader. and you think you stand to win more than your fair share of pots if you are chip leader... could be bc of bubble considerations or whatever else. but the point is that if you look at that 1 hand in isolation it would be bad, but if you look at the tournament as a whole, it would be good.
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