AleoMagus vs SNGPT!

[AlanDyer]

AleoMagus / generally accepted raising guidelines and SNGPT + math disagree in one major area:

The typical situation:
Blinds: 100/200
Folded to on the button with 1500-2000 chips.
Hand: Anything worth raising into the blinds for the steal.

Now common wisdom says if we have less than 10 bbs we should push in , or face an incredibly awkward flop cbet situation.

However, SNGPT rates these kind of push situations as -EV. [EX: button A7o with ~7bb].

How do we deal with the contrast? Our hand is fine for stealing, better than fine usually.. but if we raise only to 2.5-3bb a call / re-raise puts us in a very uncomfortable spot - and pushing is -EV.

[Pudge714]

SNGPT doesn't say you should be pushing. It says whether or not you should be pushing based on other people's calling ranges and stack sizes.

[AlanDyer]

Yea. SNGPT says you SHOULDNT push. Even at tight calling standards. Especially from UTG.. but raising QKo+ from UTG or button seems acceptable except that with our small stack any raise basically equals a push.

[wiggs73]

Alan,

Use the following setup:

Blinds: 100/200
CO - 3878
Button - 1500 - you have A7o
SB - 4200
BB - 3925
SB, BB call with 66+, ATs+, AJo+

It's +.9 to push.


Contrast that with the following setup:

Blinds: 100/200
CO - 3575
Button - 1800 - you have A7o
SB - 4200
BB - 3925
SB, BB call with 22+, A2s+, A3o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs

It's -.4 to push.


And fwiw, I'm pretty sure AleoMagus would tell you to push your A7 in the first hand and fold it in the 2nd.

Please learn how to use SNGPT.