Turn raisin'

bobhalford · #1 12-08-2006, 06:12 PM

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises...

Here I thought villain should know his hand is dead.

Stars 2/4

Hero raises AQo in the CO, BB calls

6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

villain donks, hero calls

K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

villain bets, hero raises....

Kwaz · #2 12-08-2006, 08:28 PM

1. I don't like.
2. I like.

MacGuyV · #3 12-08-2006, 08:34 PM

First hand I like if you know he'll bet.
Second hand is a nice mix-up play if his wtsd isn't silly.

bobhalford · #4 12-08-2006, 10:33 PM

In hand 1 I thought it would be silly for BB to be raising the flop with a Q. I figured him for some kind of 8, which he would bet on the turn an awful lot to protect his hand. It's not like he was raising the flop for a free card.

MacGuyV · #5 12-08-2006, 10:36 PM

I don't think raising w/ a Q is silly because nobody does it ever. I'd never raise this board for a freebie but some people do - not likely though.

bobhalford · #6 12-08-2006, 10:42 PM

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I don't think raising w/ a Q is silly because nobody does it ever. I'd never raise this board for a freebie but some people do - not likely though.

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True true. I think he raised pretty quickly though, which I took to mean an 8. That's kind of a no-brainer raise of a c-bet. If he had a Q, he would have thought for a second about it. But I think in general, a Q just calls flop and raises turn.

Kwaz · #7 12-09-2006, 01:24 AM

What are you doing if 3bet in hand 1?

DCWildcat · #8 12-09-2006, 02:21 AM

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What are you doing if 3bet in hand 1?

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Can we do anything but fold?

I generally call in hand 1. If you're behind and you fold to the 3-bet, you lose the same as you would with that checkraise. If he's doing some randomshit bluff, A high or an 8, you might make another bet that you'd lose by c/ring.

bobhalford · #9 12-09-2006, 01:54 PM

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What are you doing if 3bet in hand 1?

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I made that play intending to fold to a 3bet.

Scary_Tiger · #10 12-09-2006, 04:46 PM

Hand 1 I like.

Hand 2 is spew unless guy is retarded folder type. Fold. (Pot is really small.)