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Old 12-08-2006, 06:06 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Give me a river line plz

So, up till river, this hand i think is standard (feel free to tell me if you like a different line). Bet river or c/c or c/f?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $590.90
CO: $305.80
Button: $144.20
SB: $159.80
Hero: $400

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($74, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $35</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($144, 2 players)
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

Reads are pretty important here.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

if i had any...id post them
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

c/f is my default here
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

stnd, now fold unless he bitch bets. &gt;= half pot -&gt; fold

its probably a fold if he bets at all but still
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

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if i had any...id post them

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Check/fold then unless he gives you a silly price.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

didn't we call the turn because we didn't think the ace helped him? call a river bet.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

Definitely not c/f. You are probably ahead here, it's either bet/fold or c/c.

Basically what it comes down to is whether you think villain has a busted draw or a marginal made hand, and the probability of betting with the former and calling with the latter. He is definitely not value betting a worse hand.

I think it's pretty close actually. I probably bet like $99, from his point of view you could have hearts yourself. But c/c is probably very close to this in EV.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

whoa when I started writing my response there were no other responses.

are you guys really c/f? that is really bad IMO. He can so easily have a busted draw or some kind of mid pair. He only rarely has the A. The key is the flop flat call and weak turn bet. This makes A8 and a set pretty unlikely. Only A hand that makes sense is AhXh, and he is usually raising the flop with that. I think he has 9T or JJ or 89 or something like that. Or possibly a non-nut heart draw.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Give me a river line plz

yad,

I don't think it's very close in terms of EV.

If he has &gt;Ax, he's always calling. Not calling with worse. He may bluff worse.

I still check/fold
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