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Old 12-07-2006, 06:37 PM
LetsHugItOut LetsHugItOut is offline
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Default 100NL Floppin dem nuts

Hey guys. No reads on villain. I flop the nuts and want to extract. Check behind or go for it here? Also, what do you guys do here PF?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($37.50)
Button ($173.10)
Hero ($96.50)
BB ($168.95)
UTG ($121.25)
MP ($100.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $21</font>, Hero ???
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:38 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

I raise pf

and I def 3bet turn
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

i think calling pf is fine. but i'm a pussy out of the sb.
3bet push turn.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

Where did the button go on the turn?
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

3b push the turn. PF is meh, I usually raise.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

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Where did the button go on the turn?

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no clue, but 3bet this turn. way too many cards could come on the river that kill our hand/action.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

raise pf

anything that smoothcalls the flop and raises this turn loved the flop and will happily get it in.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:24 PM
Boomhauer Boomhauer is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

can't decide if I like the 3bet all in or 3bet to $60, all-in on river better.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

his raise on the turn makes me think he has either 2 pair. QT clubs and has a flush draw or K4. he hit something hard anyway to be all raise happy.

since your stack is pretty hefty and same with BB, you cant afford a hefty mistake. this would be if the board pairs and you arent sure if he has made a boat or something. you wont be happy calling all in with a straight if the board is paired right?

the pot is currently around 40. BB has already bet 21, so you need to make him bet another pot size bet at least. So you should min raise 60 i feel. perhaps more.

having said that i dont think 60 is correct. it shows strength but doesnt punish as much as it could. if you bet 80, it shows strength but if he calls, hes making a huge mistake.

the other option is to min raise and hope he raises YOU again. perhaps all in. No matter what now, you can call his all in or jam the pot by then.

its better if he makes the mistake in calling your huge overbet than you having to decide what hand he may or may not have made by the river.

as the advice says, bet
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Floppin dem nuts

raise pf

shove now or just make it $60 or something
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