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Old 12-07-2006, 02:14 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Just call with rivered flush?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($201)
SB ($179)
BB ($202.70)
UTG ($749.44)
MP ($200)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. MP posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (poster) raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $6, SB (poster) calls $5, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($24) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
, SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $8</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $8, SB calls $8.

River: ($48) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB bets $45, BB folds, Hero shoves
Final Pot: $48

SB seems ok, fairly solid. I think the river is just a call.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

I prefer a rr/fold pf as if it gets multiway, your relative position sucks.

I'd bet this flop, raise the turn, and raise the river.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

Bet the flop? wtf?
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

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Bet the flop? wtf?

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lol,

with this action i would bet the flop all mf'ing day.

also would probably rr or fold preflop unless i was playing against someone i have a lot of history with (meaning i flat call lots of hands in position against him).

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Old 12-07-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

If sb is solid, its hard to put him on a hand he'll call an allin with that you beat. Won't likely play a set that way. Maybe K7s or K6s, but why did he call the turn bet?

This looks like a bigger flush. I'd just call and pat myself on the shoulder when he shows Qc 10c
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

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Bet the flop? wtf?

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lol,

with this action i would bet the flop all mf'ing day.

also would probably rr or fold preflop unless i was playing against someone i have a lot of history with (meaning i flat call lots of hands in position against him).

ness

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grrrr.

i thought is was heads up.

ness
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:26 PM
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river action:

i raise him on the river here. two pair, sets, maybe a straight make up a large portion of his range here.

i doubt he semibluffed a flush draw into the field on the turn. i thinks its more likely he intended to c/r the flop.

ness
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

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Hero shoves
I think the river is just a call.

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wtf? Is this results oriented. I like a call here. If he has a brain, seems somewhat solid, and he's still trying for max value on river I'm probably just calling or making smaller raise for value. Not sure if you can fold to a 3bet on river(I'm not looking at the stacks).

Ah, just call.

edit: I think if you minraise river you can safely fold to a 3bet. Does anyone like this?
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:41 PM
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Hero shoves
I think the river is just a call.

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wtf? Is this results oriented. I like a call here. If he has a brain, seems somewhat solid, and he's still trying for max value on river I'm probably just calling or making smaller raise for value. Not sure if you can fold to a 3bet on river(I'm not looking at the stacks).

Ah, just call.

edit: I think if you minraise river you can safely fold to a 3bet. Does anyone like this?

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what do you think he has.

you gotta put him on something. KcQc, JcTc?



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Old 12-07-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Just call with rivered flush?

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Bet the flop? wtf?

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i would normally bet this flop, cuz it's checked to us, it gives us a free card a lot on the turn, our relative position has improved, etc. reasons why not?
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