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Old 12-07-2006, 01:56 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

Villain is loose-passive

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($662.25)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($553)</font>
SB ($660.05)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2044.35)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $54</font>, Button calls $36.

Flop: ($111) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, Button calls $60.

Turn: ($231) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ...

What do you guys do on the turn. You bet here mostly or play c/c , or even c/r because of the FE.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

against a passive opponent I check this and then my action depends upon the size of his bet, if he bets.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

dont reraise this preflop against a loose passive opponent unless you like large pots oop with underpairs.

bet more on flop, its monotone and you want him to play straightforwardly.

turn is obvi check, he's not going anywhere and he's not betting with worse.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:28 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

Well he seemed to call with a lot of trash and I wondered if I can bet the turn for value cause he will often call with overcards Ah,Kh and If I bet the turn the pot at the river will be bigger and If I hit OSED or set its easier to get him all in. If he would fold a 6 or an 8 it would be a great result.
Preflop I raised because I had a good image and expect him to fold frequently right away and often against my flop conti bet if it comes A X X etc..
Also I feel really comfortable to play big pots against players of superior skill.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:36 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Yea you should be comfortable with bigger pots against bad opponents, but pocket 5's is not the kind of hand you want to do it with preflop. Almost NEVER will you know where you stand after the flop, unless you hit a set. and fish like to call. Also you're oop which sucks and makes things worse.

With a hand like this you should aim to get the money in later, when you're confident and wellinformed about your hand. Not preflop, when you dont know anything.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

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Also I feel really comfortable to play big pots against players of superior skill.

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huh?
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

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dont reraise this preflop against a loose passive opponent unless you like large pots oop with underpairs.

bet more on flop, its monotone and you want him to play straightforwardly.

turn is obvi check, he's not going anywhere and he's not betting with worse.

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Old 12-07-2006, 02:43 AM
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thats gonna cost u 2 bucks, sklansky bucks that is
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Turn play with marginal holding that has outs

I am German and mixed up some vocabulary there. I meant inferior and not superior ^^
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