Combo draw faces bet and raise on flop NL100

jakeduke · #1 12-07-2006, 01:04 AM

3rd hand at the table.

I have a feeling my combo draw is actually a 6 outer, but I can't be sure. Thoughts?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $51.60
UTG+1: $96.50
CO: $15
hero: $95
SB: $226.60
BB: $63.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.5, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, UTG+1 raises to $14, hero ??

KEW · #2 12-07-2006, 01:20 AM

Embrace the variance and shove it all in..You would have to be super physic to be able to read 2 villain in order to only have 6 outs(that would be 1 villain KK and villain w/Axs)...A shove may fold a better FD.

bhudson · #3 12-07-2006, 01:27 AM

This needs a read on UTG+1s almost min-raise, but he is essentially weak-raising a weak lead so I think you have some fold equity here vs your avg player, but if he is fishy I may just call, you certainly have plenty of outs - you may be up against QT, 44 or KJ here.

Novles · #4 12-07-2006, 01:30 AM

easy shove. push out better flush draws, only AhTh specifically calls you unless they are total ids.

Grunch · #5 12-07-2006, 02:13 AM

jake - turn on your PMs so I can reply to your PM.

PM me again when you've done this, so I remember to reply to you.

Sorry for the hijack.

terp · #6 12-07-2006, 02:24 AM

part of the reason you shove this is to gain seven outs back by folding higher draws. making up for the times someone calls with a naked ace high draw are the times you're freerolling offsuit J9.

KLJ · #7 12-07-2006, 02:57 AM

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easy shove. push out better flush draws, only AhTh specifically calls you unless they are total ids.

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JReezy · #8 12-07-2006, 03:02 AM

I agree you should push here extra fold equity as a semi- squeeze play and combo draws

snakekilla88 · #9 12-07-2006, 03:19 AM

pushh gg variance

jakeduke · #10 12-07-2006, 10:14 AM

Ok, more of a quick sanity check here than anything else. I instashoved and UTG called with tens. Results were a suck (heart on the turn) and a resuck (4 on the river). I was thinking the bet and raise would make it much more likely someone had a hand they weren't going to fold here, but looking at it again shoving still seems best. Hooray variance!