How much do u 4bet KK pre after a standard r and a rr ?

ZingyDNA · #1 12-07-2006, 12:58 AM

Standard situation... I was pretty new to the table. I didn't know what to do so I pushed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($171.30)
MP ($108.65)
CO ($129.60)
Button ($231.50)
Hero ($99)
BB ($113.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, MP raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $12, Hero raises to $99.5, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $117.50

Jay Riall · #2 12-07-2006, 12:59 AM

Make it like $40 and call a push.

ZingyDNA · #3 12-07-2006, 01:03 AM

A psr is 38ish of 100 stack. But don't u get weaker hands(especially AK/QQ/JJ) to call if u push?

KLJ · #4 12-07-2006, 01:04 AM

yeah 40, maybe 43, 44 or 45 idunno

pdoran10 · #5 12-07-2006, 01:09 AM

If I have made 4 bets at the table already I certanly 4 bet and make it $40ish, and call a shove without a crazy read on villan.

If I havent been 4 betting at all yet, I consider calling the 3 bet and playing poker.

Praetor · #6 12-07-2006, 02:13 AM

$35

GooseHinson · #7 12-07-2006, 03:56 AM

I'm thinking push/call. A push gets called about as often as a pot or (maybe) 3/4 pot raise in my experience. Since we aren't folding to a 5bet, we might as well try to get maximum value out of a worse hand. With AA I'd consider a raise up ~32-36ish, but KK I'd rather just get it in preflop.

Maulik · #8 12-07-2006, 04:00 AM

push > $40ish

I like calling here a lot, too.

Freelancer · #9 12-07-2006, 05:07 AM

I reraise to 40ish. If villain calls it'll most likely get in on the flop regardless. I always 4-bet to 40ish though, this also goes for steal/resteal/reresteal situations so my 4-bets to 40ish get called more than pushes. If you generally push in btn/blind battles than push now.

Calling his 3-bet is fine as well.

carnivalhobo · #10 12-07-2006, 05:08 AM

there is nothing that you can do that doesnt narrow your range a ton, people just dont [censored] around in these spots. I think calling, shoving and 4betting less than AI are all acceptable.