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| I always stop and watch |
   
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38 | 18.18% |
| I usually stop and watch |
  
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55 | 26.32% |
| I sometimes stop and watch |
  
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61 | 29.19% |
| I never stop and watch |
  
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55 | 26.32% |
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12-06-2006, 02:03 AM
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Free will - have we polled this?
I know we've covered this somewhere, not sure we've polled...I'm not going to bias this poll with commentary...let's start with the facts...Feel free to comment.
Edit: I decline to say what 'I' mean by free will...don't be too analytic about it. 
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12-06-2006, 02:05 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
this won't get anywhere meaningful without defining exactly what you mean by "free will"..and that, in itself, is quite a task [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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12-06-2006, 02:05 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
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I know we've covered this somewhere, not sure we've polled...I'm not going to bias this poll with commentary...let's start with the facts...Feel free to comment. [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't matter but yes. Yet it matters so much more. I mean if not it doesn't matter, but if yes it matter alot. But it's generally a semantic argument, and not worht the time discussing.
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12-06-2006, 02:11 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
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12-06-2006, 02:12 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
awesome question valen.
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12-06-2006, 02:15 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
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this won't get anywhere meaningful without defining exactly what you mean by "free will"..and that, in itself, is quite a task [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I agree completely. I'm hoping everyone will define it as they see fit. Pretend you are on the witness stand, and must answer yes or no...Or answer yes/no, then define what you think of as free will.
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#7
12-06-2006, 02:17 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
Pasting the working definition I used in another thread:
free = to have no external determinants will = conscious purpose free will = conscious purpose without external determinants
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12-06-2006, 02:20 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
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lol...at least the results are consistent so far [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ]Well I say maybe for the first one, and yes for the 2nd
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12-06-2006, 08:40 AM
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Re: Free will - have we polled this?
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But it's generally a semantic argument, and not worht the time discussing. [/ QUOTE ] If you consider responsibility to be a semantics issue, then fine, but I think it's much, much more important than that. At least the way our society works as of today and anytime in the near future. See, when you understand that every human action is just as determined as the tides and the Earth's orbit around the Sun, when you understand that the universe is a whole bunch of particles bumping against each other, you see that the only reason to consider each human being a separate entity and adjudicating responsibility to it, is to alter it's future behavior, and other's. No, I do not think discussing this is a waste of time.
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