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Old 12-06-2006, 01:59 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

Well shorties always suck. I think I misplayed the hand after the flop. He lead into a dry side pot but I can't fold can I? Easy flop raise ai, yeah?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($58.50)
UTG ($9.65)
MP ($187.80)
CO ($82.75)
Hero ($99.80)
SB ($37.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9.65</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $3.65, BB calls $3.65.

Flop: ($30.45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

i shove flop
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

If BB is reasonable at all I shove PF.

Flop shove is good.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

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If BB is reasonable at all I shove PF.

Flop shove is good.

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I wasn't allowed to push Pre, i think because UTG's bet doesn't count as a raise. I don't think BB could raise, either.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

I shove on the flop.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:12 PM
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So what if he has KJ, or a lower flush draw? I don't get it. Shove flop and you will only get called by hands that have you beat and all hands that you beat will fold. Whats the point??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Our hand has tremendous value and a push gives us FE in situation where FE is the last thing we want.

So in in conclusion: flop push = g00t, turn push = great.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: PS 100NL 6max AJo against a short stack

People will call with all types of draws here
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:19 PM
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People will call with all types of draws here

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Yes but you are drawing to the nuts, and they are drawing to... not the nuts. I'd rather have them hit their draw than risk folding them out.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:22 PM
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So what if he has KJ, or a lower flush draw? I don't get it. Shove flop and you will only get called by hands that have you beat and all hands that you beat will fold. Whats the point??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Our hand has tremendous value and a push gives us FE in situation where FE is the last thing we want.

So in in conclusion: flop push = g00t, turn push = great.

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People will call you here with nearly all PP's (yes seriously) any J and any draw. He's shortstacked and put in 1/3 of his stack in on the flop, he's looking to get it in not fold...
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:33 PM
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So what if he has KJ, or a lower flush draw? I don't get it. Shove flop and you will only get called by hands that have you beat and all hands that you beat will fold. Whats the point??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Our hand has tremendous value and a push gives us FE in situation where FE is the last thing we want.

So in in conclusion: flop push = g00t, turn push = great.

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People will call you here with nearly all PP's (yes seriously) any J and any draw. He's shortstacked and put in 1/3 of his stack in on the flop, he's looking to get it in not fold...

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you've made an argument for why he might call a majority of the time. but now tell me how a call/turnpush is inferior.
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