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Old 12-06-2006, 01:46 AM
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Default Clearly, I need help...

I haven't played seriously in quite some time so I'm sure I'm a bit rusty. Didn't think I was this bad though.

Today's session was brutal. Seemed like nothing I could do made a difference. Which of course made me exacerbate the problem with tilt. Fun times. But I guess I should go through the motions and see if maybe some of this was my fault. HELP ME!!!





So, here are some of the worst hands:

Hand #1, this was probably 1000 hands in or so and I was tilting. This was dumb. I know.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($11.95)
Hero ($20.70)
Button ($4.45)
SB ($51.05)
BB ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9.95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18.7</font>, Button folds, SB calls $11.70.

Turn: ($55.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: ($55.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $55.60


Hand #2

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MP ($31.55)
CO ($36.15)
Button ($28.25)
Hero ($21.30)
BB ($24.65)
UTG ($22.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3.5</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $1.75.

Turn: ($10.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

River: ($18.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $13</font>, Hero calls $12.80 (All-In).

Final Pot: $44.05


Hand #3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($20.25)
UTG ($20.70)
Button ($6.50)
Hero ($17.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.8</font>, Button calls $0.80, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20.7</font>, Button calls $5.70 (All-In), Hero calls $14.60 (All-In).

Flop: ($45.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($45.05) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($45.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $45.05


Hand #4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($36.15)
UTG ($22.80)
MP ($24.25)
CO ($13.80)
Button ($25.65)
SB ($15.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.25</font>, UTG calls $7.25.

Turn: ($22.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24.9 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $11.55 (All-In).

River: ($59.05) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $59.05
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

hand 1 fold preflop both times
hand 2 bet more on the flop but fold if he raises
hand 3 standard unless villian is a nit and won't push AK/JJ, but I doubt he's overbetting AA here so that makes me more inclined to call
hand 4 standard, it's hard to pot control here with the likely draw so I'm not sure I'm getting away from a set/AA here either, but I may be wrong. If he's got the draw you want him calling flop 3-bet because he's not getting the odds to hit on the turn and you're presumably pushing any turn
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

Well your PF raise % should be at least 2x what yours is right now, if my vpip was 21 I would be at least 17% PF raise, but I know a lot of people do fine with slightly less than that.

You don't seem to steal nearly enough, my ATT to steal blinds is closer to 40% and I think most people advocate stealing at least 25% of the time.

Your total AF seems pretty low it should probably be at least 3, I think this might be a partial side effect of your 6% PF raise
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

AF being low has to be because of my low PF Raise %. When I'm in a hand I'm trying to take the pot every chance I get.

I guess I should make sure to raise with most hands I'm entering the pot with if it hasn't been raised yet. Always been a weak point of mine. I like to limp and play post-flop. Even though I know I should be more aggressive pre-flop.

I'll work on these things tomorrow and hopefully things will improve.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

You should probably search the forums to find a video of someone playing, I know there have been a few of these posted recently.

Here is 1 I just found: http://hosted.filefront.com/pokerintheface/

it may give you a better idea of how people with a higher PF raise % play.

You might want to read this post on blind stealing:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=6073737

And two other good posts you should probably read:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&amp;vc=1

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&amp;vc=1
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

Hand 1: Huge mistake PF. You can call with KTs, but after a raise You are OOP and You have to fold this trap hand.

Hand 2: Another typical mistake. You are calling an all-in with just TPGK. And ask Yourself a question on Villains flop reraise: What likely holding do You beat there? I have a very hard time to find any likely holding that You beat.

Hand 3: This is a little bit read dependend. I like Your reraise on the flop. But after he called it, You have to give him credit for two pair or a set. I would be done with that hand after he called my reraise. The reason for this reraise was to ask a question: " Are You stealing or is Your reraise for real"? You got a clear answer and have to put him on a set. So fold. By the way: Once again You are going all-in with just one pair! This is a huge leak in Your game!
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:40 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

hand 2 is OK, although I like squeezing with AQs here. Depends I guess. I don't like the flop minraise, and if I folded it'd be there.

hand 3 3betting flop minraises with overpairs seems to be spewing at 25NL, from what I can tell so far. That turn was pretty crappy but I'm going broke by that point. I like flop shove more than the 3bet you did. I think if flop call is better than shove, probably only marginally so.

eigen your advice to fold turn is really gross. Never fold the turn for a half pot bet with an overpair (unless MAYBE the ace of diamonds hits). Your reasoning for 3betting the flop is really bad as well. Your not asking a question, you should be shoving hoping he'll call with draws+some one pair hands, or just calling so that you don't squeeze out the part of his range you beat.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

1. fold preflop. probably the first time -- if not then, then DEFINITELY the second time. a KTx flop is no good for you when you're up against KK.

2. i'm generally 3betting this preflop. if i bet the flop, i pot it. aside from that, though, i don't hate the way this hand was played.

3. pretty sure you can fold to his push. what do you expect him to have, JJ?

4. nh. i think checking the turn (calling a push) is fine too.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:49 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
3betting flop minraises with overpairs seems to be spewing at 25NL, from what I can tell so far.

[/ QUOTE ]

i haven't played 25 nl in a while, but from what i remember, this couldn't be further from the truth. without a read, i'm more than happy to get it in with KK in this spot.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: Clearly, I need help...

Thanks for all the replies. Like I said in my OP, I'm jsut getting back into the swing of things again so I often make little mistakes like on some of these hands that end up costing me a lot. Hopefully things work out better tomorrow.
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