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Old 12-06-2006, 12:07 AM
abarber abarber is offline
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Default ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t980
Hero: t1640
SB: t6565
BB: t4315

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1640</font>

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t120/t240
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3255
UTG+1: t1555
CO: t760
Button: t2540
SB: t3615
Hero: t1775

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t720</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1775</font>

I really think both are standard, but I'm slumping, so I thought I'd run 'em by you guys.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:31 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

2nd one certainly is is. 1st one idk, given utg stack. I'd lke to hear some other opinions on this.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:33 AM
Theo_Brixton Theo_Brixton is offline
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

I think number 1 is a fold. 2 is a stop and go.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

Both hands are pretty easy pushes considering your stack relative to blinds.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

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Both hands are pretty easy pushes considering your stack relative to blinds.

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and considering utg's stack?
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

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2 is a stop and go.

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I'm not sure what you gain from a stop-n-go here. Pushing PF you might get villian to fold. Picking those chips up is nice for you.
If you stop-n-go you allow him the chance to outflop you. If he catches you're dead, if he doesn't you get no more than if you'd shoved PF.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

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Both hands are pretty easy pushes considering your stack relative to blinds.

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and considering utg's stack?

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UTG's extremely short stack is of little consideration to me here. I'm dreadfully short, too, and pretty much just as likely to go out any hand now. Suited A wheel is strong enough for me to make the push.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:42 AM
WristRocket WristRocket is offline
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

I'd push both but depending on calling ranges I think hand #1 is a bit close. Also, I don't think we gain much from a stop n'go on hand 2.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

I'd fold the first having to get through two huge stacks and with UTG very, very short and about to hit the blinds. He pretty much has to call off his stack next hand.

Shoving the second is fine but a stop n' go looks good as well: there's almost no way he's folding preflop, but if he's holding a mid PP and the flop comes KJ4 he can probably fold to your open-shove.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: ($36 Turbo) 2 bubble (well, sorta) hands

1 this is closer than i originally thought. he's gonna have to be allin soon imo. id try to outlast.
2 id shove and not think twice about it
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