(60 ps) Bad push right? AK?

[juiceistilted]

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UTG (t275)
UTG+1 (t1865)
MP1 (t1825)
MP2 (t1435)
CO (t1445)
Button (t3765)
Hero (t1425)
BB (t1465)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, MP1 calls t150, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1425 (All-in)

I think this is a -EV push am I correct?
I cant believe I am still playing this bad!! <font color="black"> </font>
What could UTG+1's range be here and no I dont have reads and yes I know I need reads to find out his range but just humor me?

[tozzy]

Flat call.

[allaboutheu]

I dont think shoving here is an awful play but I agree that flat calling is the best option for you here.

[dipstikdave]

if utg+1 is average to good player he is raising AQ+,TT+ or something close to it. with the two callers in there you are most likely up against at least 1 pocket pair. you will likely be racing from behind here, so i would just call this.

[Pocketbear]

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What could UTG+1's range be here and no I dont have reads and yes I know I need reads to find out his range but just humor me?

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JJ+ and AK? Surely flat call for me...

[pineapple888]

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if utg+1 is average to good player he is raising AQ+,TT+ or something close to it. with the two callers in there you are most likely up against at least 1 pocket pair. you will likely be racing from behind here, so i would just call this.

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Well the issue is whether you think there's a decent chance they will all fold, because 500 chips helps you a WHOLE bunch and with the dead money in there a coinflip isn't so bad.

I guess if you had a read that UTG+1 was LAGgy, I'd shove. But vs. the usual crop of retards I'd just call.

[Pudge714]

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if utg+1 is average to good player he is raising AQ+,TT+ or something close to it. with the two callers in there you are most likely up against at least 1 pocket pair. you will likely be racing from behind here, so i would just call this.

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Well the issue is whether you think there's a decent chance they will all fold, because 500 chips helps you a WHOLE bunch and with the dead money in there a coinflip isn't so bad.

I guess if you had a read that UTG+1 was nitty, I'd shove. But vs. the usual crop of retards I'd shove.

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[pineapple888]

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if utg+1 is average to good player he is raising AQ+,TT+ or something close to it. with the two callers in there you are most likely up against at least 1 pocket pair. you will likely be racing from behind here, so i would just call this.

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Well the issue is whether you think there's a decent chance they will all fold, because 500 chips helps you a WHOLE bunch and with the dead money in there a coinflip isn't so bad.

I guess if you had a read that UTG+1 was nitty, I'd shove. But vs. the usual crop of retards I'd shove.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] If he's nitty his range is real tight to start with and he isn't going to fold given the number of squeeze plays that people try and the dead money in the pot. But if he's opening with A9o or whatever even a LAGtard will know to fold.

[Askilus]

You got to love these one liners, they have really improved my game, really!

[DaN_05]

Hmmm, without reads that UTG+1 was a real nitty solid player, I'd be pushing all the time here. So much dead money in chips going on here.