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02-03-2006, 04:48 AM
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mmm mmm calling
4 handed 100/200
one of those overagro/doesn't QUITE get it but not ridiculous and has a clue type's raises in the CO, I opt to cold-call with king jack. Blinds fold. Flop comes A76r He bets, I call. turn 6h He bets, I call. river Ac He bets, I call. Thoughts? 
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#2
02-03-2006, 04:55 AM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
How often to you 'float' like this? Do you prefer to do so with hands that don't exactly have great showdown value like KJo,QTs,JTs,T9s? I know it confuses me when my opposition floats one of my open raises so I was thinking about maybe adding it to my bag of tricks. Just wondering what kind of factors need to be present for you to make this play. Thanks.
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#4
02-03-2006, 05:51 AM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
If he has a clue, I would think he would not bet the river unless he wants a call or thinks you have exactly 98. I would also guess he wouldn't think you would cold call with 98.
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#6
02-03-2006, 07:15 AM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
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one of those overagro/doesn't QUITE get it but not ridiculous and has a clue type's raises in the CO, I opt to cold-call with king jack. [/ QUOTE ] wow.
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#8
02-03-2006, 12:23 PM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
if i float in this spot, its usually not with a hand like KJo.
if you knew on the turn that you were going to call a bet on the river (and be correct to) id rather a raise/fold to a turn 3 bet which sacrifices hiting a K/J on riv (if it woulda been good) and folds out hands that have 6 outs to beat you (usually a case against raising the turn...but here you're hand may not even be good now) and may get him to fold a pair that he wouldn't had you just called the turn. either way i dont like this hand much at all and given that i did call preflop id release on the flop. -Barron
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#9
02-03-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
[ QUOTE ]
How often to you 'float' like this? Do you prefer to do so with hands that don't exactly have great showdown value like KJo,QTs,JTs,T9s? I know it confuses me when my opposition floats one of my open raises so I was thinking about maybe adding it to my bag of tricks. Just wondering what kind of factors need to be present for you to make this play. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] I'd usually 3 bet this, but every once in awhile I just feel like calling and maybe that's a mistake. It might be the short term but I've had pretty decent success with making these types of cold-calls occaisionally with players who don't fold. I think it might give a better balance too so I can call more 98s and stuff like that as they'll have a hard er time putting me on a range. Maybe I'm retarded and outthinking myself and I should just be 3 betting. Sometimes I let my mind go and convince myself to play a hand a certain way. This was kind of a 'weird one' so I thought I'd post it to get some thoughts as I'm not confident about the way I played it. Flawless : would you like it better if I had JT?
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#10
02-03-2006, 12:34 PM
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Re: mmm mmm calling
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if i float in this spot, its usually not with a hand like KJo. [/ QUOTE ] I never used to either but I've been experimenting with stuff like that the last few months with suprising sucess. I may be wrong but for a lot of reasons I like calling on the flop. Given his range of hands I feel like i'm in fine shape but given that the more I think about it the more 3 betting seems like a better play but like I said i 3 bet most of the time here and cold call every once in awhile. Usually the reason I call is if one of the blinds is a pretty bad player who will come along too and make some post-flop mistakes. [ QUOTE ] if you knew on the turn that you were going to call a bet on the river (and be correct to) id rather a raise/fold to a turn 3 bet which sacrifices hiting a K/J on riv (if it woulda been good) and folds out hands that have 6 outs to beat you (usually a case against raising the turn...but here you're hand may not even be good now) and may get him to fold a pair that he wouldn't had you just called the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah and I think that's one of my leaks, I don't do this enough. [ QUOTE ] either way i dont like this hand much at all and given that i did call preflop id release on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm. Perhaps. I'll give it more thought.
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