OK to call river here?

Thorv · #1 12-05-2006, 03:27 AM

UTG is 40/20/1.1 over 50 hands, but does seem aggressive post-flop. Button just sat down.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

cassette · #2 12-05-2006, 03:32 AM

I think I like a donk on the turn when a non-spade hits that doesn't complete a straight draw. I'm not sure what to do on the river. Definitley call HU but I'm not sure with Button in there too.

Scotch78 · #3 12-05-2006, 03:36 AM

7-1 on an overcall with second pair? No, a call is not okay here.

Scott

gehrig · #4 12-05-2006, 04:06 AM

overcalling does not make much of a difference. button's range is huge

RunDownHouse · #5 12-05-2006, 04:18 AM

Ugh, you didn't spot that turn getting checked through from a million miles away? I usually 3bet the flop since button is coming along.

cassette · #6 12-05-2006, 04:20 AM

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overcalling does not make much of a difference. button's range is huge

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So are you saying this is a call?

gopnik · #7 12-05-2006, 12:54 PM

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UTG is 40/20/1.1 over 50 hands, but does seem aggressive post-flop. Button just sat down.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

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I'd either jam the flop or donk the turn.

TomBrooks · #8 12-05-2006, 01:20 PM

I'd call. UTG looks to have been on a flush draw. I would call hoping it wasn't the nut flush draw.

Burnsabre · #9 12-05-2006, 01:33 PM

3 bet the flop yo...
The river is close but I think its a fold. Utg's open limping indicates a weak suited ace alot of the time and he played the hand exactly like a pretty agro player would play the nut fd.. button is along for the ride so its tough to get a read on him but very possibly have A9 or something like QJ, QT, or KT with a spade. I don't think 7-1 is enough here

jstill · #10 12-05-2006, 01:44 PM

I dont overcall here, but its not just because of the button he could definitely have a worse hand. its mostly cuz the guy who ck'd thru the turn bet this river card into 2 players. unless ive seen him do that with some hands he definitely shouldnt have before I wouldnt call here.