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Old 12-05-2006, 12:07 AM
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Default Can you beat yourself in a fight...

In a controlled fight against your clone (who has the exact same history as you), could there be winner? Does it help if one of the fighters get a weapon? Would letting the fighters plan strategy prior to the fight help?
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:26 AM
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No contest. I'd kick my identical clone's ass under any conditions.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Can you beat yourself in a fight...

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In a controlled fight against your clone (who has the exact same history as you), could there be winner? Does it help if one of the fighters get a weapon? Would letting the fighters plan strategy prior to the fight help?

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Of course there could be a winner, theres plenty of vaiance in a fight you'd just have the same expectation.

I'd back myself against myself if I had a weapon.

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Old 12-05-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Can you beat yourself in a fight...

I'd back myself against myself if my clone had the weapon, knowing that he'd be likely to overvalue the weapon.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:46 AM
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I'd back myself against myself if my clone had the weapon, knowing that he'd be likely to overvalue the weapon.

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I think you overestimate the value of you overestimating the value of a weapon.

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Old 12-05-2006, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Can you beat yourself in a fight...

Luck. Weapon? Advantage, but not all that much of one. A gun at long range would make me a huge favorite, but a knife or something I could turn against me with relative ease. I doubt any realistic situation would get me to fight my clone. I'd only want to make friends with him, and he and I would both know that a serious fight could get either or both of us seriously hurt.
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:38 AM
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This is like some horrible game theory nightmare. I would know his tendencies and he would know what I know and that I'm aware he knows this, etc. etc.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: Can you beat yourself in a fight...

Virtual coinflip.

As the length of the fight goes on, the odds of either making an error that loses the other the fight increases. (Yes, I notice the paradox in that sentence. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) And there's no way to tell whether side would be the one to make the error.

Considering that clones are slightly degraded photocopies of the original...

The real advantage for you or your clone would come in the interval from the moment of cloning, and the divergent stimuli in the time interval before the fight.

Giving one a weapon would hardly be an advantage, unless you aren't proficient at the arts to begin with.

Unless it's an Uzi or something.

Obviously, the winner gets Gugino.

Edited to add: WhoIAm, and that's the point. That's the only worthwhile challenge. From a mortal viewpoint, it wouldn't matter who won, no holds barred. Not that I'd know though.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:18 AM
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I assumed the idea is that the point of divergence is the beginning of the fight, and that the clone is perfect. That is, you are the clone. The clone is you. At minimum, neither of you knows which is "original." And both of you probably believe "I'm the original."
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:35 AM
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