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Old 12-04-2006, 12:28 AM
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Default $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

very early in tourney (15/30, 1500 starting), have 10-10 UTG, limp in, raise to 120 from MP player, all fold around to me, call, flop 9-6-2, two clubs, i check, raiser bets pot (270), i reraise all-in (1300), he calls with Q-Q, i bust

not the best way to deal with that hand is it? should i raise UTG to 3BB (90), and fold if Q-Q hand reraises me preflop? should i bet the flop, and fold to a reraise? should i do everything the same, but reraise his flop bet something like 700, then fold when he goes all-in?

hmm, i think i just don't have enough respect for the average player at this limit, because i think the way i played it, i could very easily receive a call from A-9, 88, 77, or less likely but maybe A-K, or 33-55, and also very likely my raise forces A-10, A-J, A-Q, A-K, K-Q, etc. to fold...
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

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Old 12-04-2006, 01:25 AM
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

Fold if reraised pf by QQ, but not if reraised by 99.
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

I probably fold to the PF raise and lead the flop as played.

Let's see what the pros have to say.
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

The limp preflop is fine and calling the raise is fine. I would lead the flop though and then back off to any aggression. I think a checkraise risks way too many chips without giving you any idead where you stand, especially if you are check pushing the flop.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

At the 11s, you're just not ever going to have the luxury of a solid "read" on a player, since they will be playing stupid such a large fraction of the time. Here's how I'd play your hand and why.

Preflop: TT is the borderline hand where you will find many good players argue for either limping or raising. As such, I really don't care. Let's just say limping is fine, and given the raising range of the average opponent, I'd say you're ahead. You can call. I probably go 50/50 raise/call, and always call that raise.

Flop: You flopped an overpair. That's pretty much teh nutz at this level, and despite not actually being the nuts, you will get paid off by so many worse hands you should play it like the nuts. Yeah, you feel stupid stacking off to QQ, but would have even posted if it had been A9? Raising the flop and folding to a push is bad. There is no way possible to collect enough information in zero hands at the 11s on a random opponent to be able to lay down an overpair.

The only modification is this. The kind of player who raises preflop with A9 and pots the flop will stack off on the turn if you smooth call the flop. Overcard hands are drawing very thin and may continue to bluff the turn unimproved. You may consider just calling the flop and shoving the turn. If he's got a bigger overpair you're going broke anyway, so get more value out of the hands you beat.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

First of all, welcome to the forums.

I think preflop is fine. You don't quite have implied odds to play for a set but TT has overpair value as well. From UTG I would limp TT rather than raise.

On the flop, I would lead for about 2/3 pot rather than check-raising, fold to a raise, and probably check the turn if smooth called. This early, even though an overpair is often the nuts at a $11, I don't want to risk a ton of chips finding out I'm beat.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:44 AM
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: $10+1, STT SNG, 10-10 in first position play

I don't ever want to donk-bet this flop. In my mind, his raise of a flop lead means "I really don't want to let go of this missed AKo" often enough that I can't really fold to it any easier than I could fold to a bet after I check. It seems like a lot of low-stakes beginners try to make these "big folds" early on by putting unknown opponents on a very tight hand range, when really what they need to be doing is putting their opponent on a fairly wide hand range, and then getting lots of chips in when they beat that range.
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