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Old 12-02-2006, 01:01 AM
mikeJ mikeJ is offline
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Default 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($687)
UTG ($809.30)
Hero ($1187.15)
CO ($597)
Button ($524.85)
SB ($919)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 3.
1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 3 folds.

Flop: ($54) K, 3, A (2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $54

This happens a decent % of the time, villain calls pre then donk bets for a smallish amount. In this spot, my default is to fold and make a note. Am I missing out on value by folding flop?
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

I call (or raise)
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

I never fold a pair or two overcards to those bets. Here I raise.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

Convertor messed up.

Flop pot is $54.

As a quick check, if villain bet $35, you fold right
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

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Convertor messed up.

Flop pot is $54.

As a quick check, if villain bet $35, you fold right

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Old 12-02-2006, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

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Convertor messed up.

Flop pot is $54.

As a quick check, if villain bet $35, you fold right

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In the original post, the convertor has the pot @ $27 on the flop. The actual pot was $54. Is this the source of confusion?

I am asking if you raise both biggish donk bets ($35 to pot) and smallish donk bets (~$24) or do you only raise the smallish donk bets? Is this the source of confusion?
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

I'm not folding a pair here to a PSB bet or less
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Old 12-02-2006, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

Wow more talk about this please. I fold vs villians a fair bit against this type of play. I esspecially like a fold on this board as we have so few ways to improve, unless I feel villian is getting out of line.

Those advocating a call/raise I guess you are planning on floating/bluffing turn?
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

They'd have to be, there's not much other way to win. Calling flop and firing turn seems OK against a moron bet like this. Echo what you said though about not being able to improve, I'd prefer this if we had a backdoor draw of some sort.
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Old 12-02-2006, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: 600NL, The Little Things, 63s bottom pair

I raise. People donk/fold this flop all the time with lots of stuff, but rarely anything that can stand much heat.
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