Some tricky spots on all streets (stars 25/50)

[Apathy]

Villian is a regular but I rarely play on stars so I don't know anything about them really, they have been playing aggresivly in position 4 handed on another table but I haven't seen anything too too crazy.


Thoughts on the whole hand?

PokerStars Game #7251141015: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/12/01 - 08:11:31 (ET)
Table 'Danae' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: joiso ($6271 in chips)
Seat 5: sparx1 ($13782 in chips)
Seat 6: Apathy123 ($7711 in chips)
Seat 7: ilvdnfl ($5523 in chips)
Seat 9: twin-caracas ($4925 in chips)
joiso: posts small blind $25
sparx1: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Apathy123 [8s 8c]
Apathy123: raises $125 to $175
ilvdnfl: folds
twin-caracas: calls $175
joiso: calls $150
sparx1: calls $125
*** FLOP *** [8d Jc 3h]
joiso: checks
sparx1: checks
Apathy123: bets $500
twin-caracas: folds
joiso: raises $750 to $1250
sparx1: folds
Apathy123: calls $750
*** TURN *** [8d Jc 3h] [Qc]
joiso: checks
Apathy123: checks
*** RIVER *** [8d Jc 3h Qc] [Kh]
joiso: bets $2750
Apathy123 ??????

[fukkeneh]

i 3 bet the flop 100% of the time, because I'm weak and people pay me off.

i bet the turn if i failed to 3 bet the flop.

river ?????????????? puke and call. (your prolly going to see 9 10 or QQ if your beat) J Q, J K if your good.

[shootaa]

i dont mind your play, would u like to explain why you dont bet the turn here? as playd, i think the river is a call, raising is definitely out of the questions are there are a decent amount of hands he could be value betting here

[fslexcduck]

his overcall preflop makes me think this is 333 more than JJJ, QQQ, or KKK. so call. but he's got one of those most of the time fer sure.

also, i don't mind the turn check but i also don't mind a bet, it can go either way depending on how aggro you've been. if you've been active, then just try to get it in. i think his overcall preflop is the crucial point of the hand.

[IWEARGOGGLES]

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his overcall preflop makes me think this is 333 more than JJJ, QQQ, or KKK. so call. but he's got one of those most of the time fer sure.

also, i don't mind the turn check but i also don't mind a bet, it can go either way depending on how aggro you've been. if you've been active, then just try to get it in. i think his overcall preflop is the crucial point of the hand.

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Why would villain check the turn?

[fslexcduck]

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his overcall preflop makes me think this is 333 more than JJJ, QQQ, or KKK. so call. but he's got one of those most of the time fer sure.

also, i don't mind the turn check but i also don't mind a bet, it can go either way depending on how aggro you've been. if you've been active, then just try to get it in. i think his overcall preflop is the crucial point of the hand.

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Why would villain check the turn?

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no reason except the only draw getting there and an overcard making it less likely for a naked J to call again

[BobboFitos]

i dont think there is alot of value in pushing now, so i woudl just call

[Moonshine]

given the action, i think his range is made up of a ton of medium strength 2 pair hands and a straight of course. i think only the straight and an oddly played KK call a river raise, even 33 could find the fold button.

i prob jsut call the river. i hate checking the turn against an aggro player though.

[EmpireMaker2]

U seriously need to raise this flop

[Moonshine]

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U seriously need to raise this flop

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if i had to pick one flop that i seriously would not need to raise all the time, it would probably look a lot like this one