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Old 12-01-2006, 01:15 AM
llayner llayner is offline
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Default 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

Typical 4/8 table, some calling stations, little agression. The uber lag had just left.

Hero has AcAs utg bets, villian calls, 1 other caller in MP. (7 sm bets)

Flop: 9TA rainbow
Hero checks (with the original intention of ck raising), villian checks, MP bets (had 6 total which I didn't realized until he bet), all call (10 sm bets)
Turn: Q
Hero bets, villian raises (9BB)
Ok, so now I figure she has a straight, maybe JK, but I call for the redraw. She's not completly tight and I had shown some crap earlier.
River: 2
Hero checks, villian bets

Should I have called her just to see even though I was sure I was beat? I figure my issue here is not reraising the flop as intended, but the guy being basically all in stopped me.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

Bet/3-bet the flop.

And you can't fold top set.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

folding that river for 1 bet closing action is a mortal sin in the absence of a polygraph test of a read on villain. at the time, did you calculate what % of the time you needed to be good to profit from a river call?
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

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Typical 4/8 table, some calling stations, little agression.

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Flop: 9TA rainbow
Hero checks (with the original intention of ck raising),

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It's usually a good idea to make plays according to one's reads. In other words, WHAT MADE YOU THINK THAT PASSIVE CALLING STATIONS WERE GOING TO BET YOUR HAND FOR YOU AFTER YOU RAISED PREFLOP?
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

he was getting his bet ready
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

Bet the flop, in passive games they won't bet for you (but they will call).

Folding this hand on the river would be very bad. 4/8 live she'd have to turn KJ faceup to get me to fold(and probably to get me to NOT 3-bet the turn).

In 4/8 live games when you raise preflop and flop the nuts, just go ahead and keep betting.
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

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Typical 4/8 table, some calling stations, little agression. The uber lag had just left.

Hero has AcAs utg bets, villian calls, 1 other caller in MP. (7 sm bets)


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I'm assuming you meant raise here.

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Flop: 9TA rainbow
Hero checks (with the original intention of ck raising), villian checks, MP bets (had 6 total which I didn't realized until he bet), all call (10 sm bets)


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If you intended to check/raise, why didn't you? Bet and 3 bet this. If you don't bet, they can't call. If you're up against calling stations, there's no guarantee that they'll bet for you, but you sure as hell better believe they'll call.

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Turn: Q
Hero bets, villian raises (9BB)
Ok, so now I figure she has a straight, maybe JK, but I call for the redraw. She's not completly tight and I had shown some crap earlier.


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If you had shown strength on the flop, then you might be able to bet/call here, but since you haven't, I'd 3-bet and call a cap.

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River: 2
Hero checks, villian bets

Should I have called her just to see even though I was sure I was beat? I figure my issue here is not reraising the flop as intended, but the guy being basically all in stopped me.

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The guy being all-in shouldn't matter. You know villain isn't bluffing, but he could easily have some ragged 2 pair here. Calling in this medium/big pot is a must.
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

Oye. Raise preflop good, bet flop good, cap turn good, call river good. You could even bet/call river. You have a HUGE hand, only 2 straights beat you, don't see monsters everywhere.
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: 4/8 B/M, Another AA hand

thanks for the feedback - i'll try and keep these posts less rambally next time. and i think this was a bad case of FPS.
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