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Old 11-30-2006, 05:50 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Can\'t fold here, right?

After having a good month at 3/6 and SSNL, I thought I'd give another go at my mortal enemy: 5/10 LHE.. -35bb in an hour.. Anything I can do differently in this hand?

Stupid [censored] nidlewhurst isn't working so [censored] it.

No reads - 5/10 FTP

I'm dealt J6o in the BB, button and SB both limp to me and I check to see the flop.

J88 rainbow
SB bets, I call, button raises and we both call

turn brings another 8 (J888 with 2 spades on board now)
SB donks, I call, button raises and SB reraises all-in with his last 8 bucks.

So 1.8bb to call. Do it, right?
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

what a [censored] hand

i wonder if you can fold on the flop somewhere. the pot is just stupid small.
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Old 11-30-2006, 06:08 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

wtf we have a boat yah?

I would have raised flop bet for fun, barring some passive read.

Turn play is fine and it's an easy call. I check/call the river.
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Old 11-30-2006, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

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I would have raised flop bet for fun

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I figured I was usually behind a better jack atleast and I didn't want to risk getting repopped so I just called hoping that button would fold and that the turn brought a card to snap SB's kicker. Naturally I felt inclined to raise when I saw him lead out, but it just didn't seem right at the time. I dunno.
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Old 11-30-2006, 06:27 PM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

Don't fold with the boat, now if you were behind a better J you just tied. I think I would raise the flop as well.
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Old 11-30-2006, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

Raising the flop is good. You are giving the sb way too much credit by thinking he has a better J. This will often be a smallish pocket pair or random sillyness. I don't think you can find a fold in this hand without very strong reads.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:04 PM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Raising the flop is good. You are giving the sb way too much credit by thinking he has a better J. This will often be a smallish pocket pair or random sillyness...

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tee hee
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:15 PM
JBMSweden JBMSweden is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

I would ALWAYS raise this flop because if I get reraised it gives me a better sense of where I stand (depending on reads of course) and I can more easily get away from the hand if I am raised and reraised. Is this wrong thinking?

Call is a bloody must? Or isnt it?
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

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I would ALWAYS raise this flop because if I get reraised it gives me a better sense of where I stand (depending on reads of course) and I can more easily get away from the hand if I am raised and reraised. Is this wrong thinking?

Call is a bloody must? Or isnt it?

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defining ur hand is a cost not a benefit of raising
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:19 PM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t fold here, right?

Definite call.

Main reason? Players when getting down to their last few dollars, often just pick a hand, say the f*ck with it and raise till they're all in. Very common trend.

Had your kicker played, it would be a fold.
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