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Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
Hand #1: Last hand of first orbit. No reads.
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls. Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Hero calls. Turn: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP folds. River: (13 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Final Pot: 15 BB <font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 15 BB, between Hero and BB.</font> Hand #2: BB is 71/8/1.91 over 52 (edit) MP is 72/3.5/0.3 over 125 PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls. Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls. Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (12 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP calls. Final Pot: 18 BB <font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 18 BB, between Hero, BB and MP.</font> |
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
You played the first hand fine. The second hand you probably had no reason to call on the flop with a player calling ahead of you and to act behind you. Once you made this mistake, you played the hand fine.
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
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You played the first hand fine. The second hand you probably had no reason to call on the flop with a player calling ahead of you and to act behind you. Once you made this mistake, you played the hand fine. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
First hand is standard, second hand fold flop.
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
in hand1 I'd rather c/r the flop than donk. hand2 you showed how bigofafishyouare.
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
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in hand1 I'd rather c/r the flop than donk. hand2 you showed how bigofafishyouare. [/ QUOTE ] Why c/r the flop? If BB bets out and everyone calls you are 'trapping' the field with 2nd pair, no kicker. Doesn't make sense. Let BB knock out other players with whatever he's got, be it a higher pair or UI overs. |
#7
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
c/c flop in the first hand ur hand sucks
fold flop in the 2nd one ur hand sucks |
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
Hand #1: c/c... use your relative position on the pre-flop raiser to your advantage. You don't want to pay more than a single small bet.
Hand #2: Possibly the worst flop call I have ever seen someone post... |
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
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Hand #2: Possibly the worst flop call I have ever seen someone post... [/ QUOTE ] you need to hit BBV more! |
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Re: Berated for the way I played these 2 hands
So I agree that the flop call on the second hand is pretty bad, but I don't think it's as terrible as others might. Given that I'm getting 1:14 to call, along with a backdoor flush + backdoor straight + BB may not even have an ace (I've seen him donk on A-high boards every street OOP with PP's as low as 55), my K-Q outs might still be good, and given how loose MP is, I'm probably still ahead of his range, though I still don't know what SB has yet to do. It may not be pot odds, and implied odds probably suck, but I think it's closer than it looks. Thoughts?
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