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Old 11-29-2006, 01:22 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

I can think of two distinct situations. One you will soon be reading about in William Chen's book. It is regarding tournaments. The other involves a specific game, not necessarily in tournaments. What are these two poker situations?

Hint: The solution to "Chicken" is to throw your steering wheel out the window while the other guy is watching.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:31 AM
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For the tournament one: would it be when you're a maniac, like Hon Le or somebody, and you prevent people from performing the standard blind-steals because they know you'll stack off with all kinds of hands (even though this would hurt your tournament equity)? I don't mean it actually hurts your equity, because you just have to threaten it, not do it. The gain you get from changing your opponents play should make up for the times you have to prove your insanity.

I remember hearing some pros having a discussion somewhere, on the Circuit maybe, talking about how raising on the button when the antes approach a certain level is pretty much mandatory. Somebody had to jump in, though, and say, "Unless Alan Goehring's in the big blind; that guy calls with anything!!" Sounds like Alan has gotten everyone to think his steering wheel is gone.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:51 AM
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The second one, maybe TD? Before the last draw (you both drew 1 on the second draw), say you have a T with a good draw. You bet and get raised. You 3-bet, expecting your opponent to 4-bet with a very strong hand. If he just calls, you're pat, and expect him to break a mediocre winning hand like 97432.

EDIT: Even better, if he goes all "We don't need no stinking steering wheels" on you and 4-bets anyways, planning to ditch his 9 if you 5-bet, you end up breaking and he's pat.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:09 AM
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The second one, maybe TD? Before the last draw (you both drew 1 on the second draw), say you have a T with a good draw. You bet and get raised. You 3-bet, expecting your opponent to 4-bet with a very strong hand. If he just calls, you're pat, and expect him to break a mediocre winning hand like 97432.

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Very nice. I think we won the thread.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

Might the non-tournament situation involve draw when you, the opener, stand pat with a non-pat hand against an obviously on-the-come opponent?
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

you're both on the last round of betting, neither of you has a hand, keep betting and raising, first one to fold loses.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

An aggressive strategy will be more profitable in the long term but will result in higher variance.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

Poker feels like "chicken" to me 90% of the time.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: When Is Poker Like \"Chicken\"

in tournaments, specifically in situations where it would be -EV ($EV, not chip EV) for both players to get it all in, and they both know it.

ie. guy A pushes, knowing that guy B has a positive chip EV call, but guy A knows guy B can't call because it would be negative $$ EV. getting it all in would be more -EV for guy A than for guy B, but guy B can't call anyway, except maybe if he's considering his image for similar future situations.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:49 PM
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