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Old 11-28-2006, 03:45 AM
Tha Stunna Tha Stunna is offline
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Default Chasing w/ smaller pair - Stud 8

In 7CSFAP, it says that you should chase on 5th street with an underpair if you have 2 overcards or a live ace. Is that only true for stud high, where your opponent may be semibluffing, or is it also true for stud 8, where your opponent has a big pair almost all of the time?

7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
2c Jd 2d Ah Th 153494 153494 346506 0 0 0 0 0.307
Qs 3s Qd 9h 346506 346506 153494 0 0 0 0 0.693

This seems to say no, but I'm curious to hear everyone's opinion.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Chasing w/ smaller pair - Stud 8

Unless your opponent is in a steal position facing a weak board, then he will almost always have what he's representing, so you should just fold on 3rd. Also, the fact that there will often be another player in the pot going low makes it even less favorable to try to outdraw an opponents high hand, since you will often end up with only half the pot when you make two pair or better, and sometimes even get scooped.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:43 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: Chasing w/ smaller pair - Stud 8

How did you manage to get into this spot?
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Chasing w/ smaller pair - Stud 8

J22 is junk in Stud8. It isn't great in Stud high either.
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:17 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Chasing w/ smaller pair - Stud 8

Fold third. Fold fifth. Generally speaking, you want to avoid second-best hands like the plague in stud/8.
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