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Old 11-24-2006, 02:54 PM
cnfuzzd cnfuzzd is offline
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Default This was fun. AK vs some dudes

fun fun.


CO in this hand was something like a 80/10 station. Wtsd of like 53, calling anything and everything up to and including the river. He was also quite passive, with an aggro factor of ~.5

Button is aggro, one of those 55/37 dudes who is entirely fun to play with, as long as you are hitting better than he is. Im pretty sure he thinks im on tilt since i told him to go [censored] himself or something. I promise i wasnt


Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (14SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $1.5</font>.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11.25BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 10.75BB, Sidepot 1: 0.5BB)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (13.25BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 10.75BB, Sidepot 1: 2.5BB)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, ....


Thoughts?


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Old 11-24-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

Spewtastic

I don't river value bet the AK UI, even against a 80/10.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

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Spewtastic

I don't river value bet the AK UI, even against a 80/10.

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Without button being put all in this looks kinda ugly. I don't think I bet river in any case, what is he calling down with that you beat here?

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imo the river is close between betting and check calling, folding would never even enter my mind.


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I don't think so. Ah... buddy has no stack. Not much point in keeping him betting.

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I like your connection to the flop. Well played.


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Preflop is of course standard. Now the flop hits, and i ask, what has changed? Not much. This is a great flop, and i was 90% certain i had the best hand. The one problem is that aggro button could have a pp, (which is bad only in the sense that i am going to draw out later in the hand). Regardless, i am more than willing to put button in and collect the bets from the sidepot with calling station co.


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Old 11-24-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

Yeah, makes sense. NH, thanks for it.
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

river is a slight spew, let's say he calls every hand including T high.
Enter the board and your hand vs a random hand on poker tracker.

Random hand equity = 66%
You = 33%

So this is assuming he doesn't get agressive with any twopair+ hands as well as calling hands with 7 high on the river, I think it may balance.

Since he's so loose passive, he wont bet everything that beats you either. In fact if the pot weren't so enormous you can probabily check/fold to a player like this.
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

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river is a slight spew, let's say he calls every hand including T high.
Enter the board and your hand vs a random hand on poker tracker.

Random hand equity = 66%
You = 33%

So this is assuming he doesn't get agressive with any twopair+ hands as well as calling hands with 7 high on the river, I think it may balance.

Since he's so loose passive, he wont bet everything that beats you either. In fact if the pot weren't so enormous you can probabily check/fold to a player like this.

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This is true, but given the size of the pot, folding is not an option. Since he will check through every hand i beat, bet many hands that beat me, and rarely, but possibly, bet hands that i beat, betting if far superiour to checking. If he were more aggro, checking and letting him bluff would have been better.

This is an additional reason i enjoyed this line so much. nut no pair is a great hand vs these two, and by bloating the pot early, (which is seldom a mistake) i also justify taking this hand to showdown, which is often quite profitable.

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Old 11-24-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

I think u played fine. Button is going all in and u might as well do it early while CO is still there to give u his money. River is also 'fun', but if ur read is good, correct.
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

I think you can c/f the river against CO.
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

I don't even get the flop 3bet. Please explain?
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: This was fun. AK vs some dudes

lol
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