TPTK in 3bet pot

[Game_On]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $1188.45
UTG+1: $397.05
CO: $616.20
Button: $733.20
SB: $894
BB: $535.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $21</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $84</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($189, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $189</font>


Villian is an uknown to me but I have him at 25/11

His pot cb really got me thinking. Do I go broke here?

[smartalecc5]

Yes, I go broke here. I prob either

1) Call this flop with intention of raising any non spade, 9 or ace on the turn.

or

2) Raise this flop to a pot sized bet and obv commit stack there if forced to or get in on turn.

[Kilillan]

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Yes, I go broke here. I prob either

1) Call this flop with intention of raising any non spade, 9 or ace on the turn.

or

2) Raise this flop to a pot sized bet and obv commit stack there if forced to or get in on turn.

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wouldn't a spade be more good than bad, considering it's a reraised pot

[Jinx]

i'd probably call flop and fold turn, unless a K or a spade fell.

[luckychewy]

call and get it in on any turn. i would prob only fold if a 9/T/Q fell, maybe not even a 9. just try to get to showdown but if he checks turn and riv v-bet riv, otherwise stack off if he keeps firing.

[JiffyPop100]

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i'd probably call flop and fold turn, unless a K or a spade fell.

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So youre going to call the flop with the sole intention of folding over 75% of the time on the turn?

Thats horrible, dude.

[luckychewy]

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i'd probably call flop and fold turn, unless a K or a spade fell.

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So youre going to call the flop with the sole intention of folding over 75% of the time on the turn?

Thats horrible, dude.

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where was it stated the guys freq to bet turn again was 75%+? i don't agree this is the most optimal line, but your statement is insanely false.

[Jinx]

if the villain isn't insane he's not gonna bet the turn with a hand that you beat.

[luckychewy]

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if the villain isn't insane he's not gonna bet the turn with a hand that you beat.

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making such a blanket statement like this is so rediculous.

[Jinx]

no one's betting the turn with QQ unless he's retarded. So your only hopes are a maniacly played QK or a split with AK or just some guy who wants to gamble with 54o.