20/40 bluff-raise turn. You like?

Hass · #1 11-20-2006, 06:54 PM

20/40 CAZ

Hero is bb with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 limpers
sb completes
sb is villan. Villan is a dealer, good player, tight, fairly aggressive. I think her name is Sabo or something like that.

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villan bets
Hero calls.
All limpers fold, heads up on turn.

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villan bets
Hero raises
Villan calls

River: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villan checks.
Hero bets......................

mr pink · #2 11-20-2006, 07:03 PM

this looks like a spew to me. you'll get 3bet on the turn here by 54 a ton of the time or some other weird 2pair. your best hope is that she's donking a picked up flush draw which means you're committing yourself to a 3 bigbet bluff on the turn/river if you don't improve and she whiffs on her draw. too much of a parlay imo.

private joker · #3 11-20-2006, 07:12 PM

I don't like it. The 2s is such an obvious semi-bluffing card; either you have a flush draw or straight draw, unlikely the 2 helped you. If she was betting a 9, she isn't folding. I like the river bet, since it's your best chance to win the pot, but I think maybe a flop raise and taking a freebie on the turn might be a better way to handle this. I'd like the turn semi-bluff better if the card was more of a scare.

Hass · #4 11-20-2006, 07:52 PM

Replace the 2s with the Kc. Same line?

bakku · #5 11-20-2006, 08:15 PM

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but I think maybe a flop raise and taking a freebie on the turn might be a better way to handle this.

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why would you want to push out the limpers behind you to get it HU against a better hand? i want the people behind me to call this flop

mr pink · #6 11-20-2006, 08:31 PM

whoops, I thought sb checked the flop and you bet it and then she donked into you on the turn.

still don't like it.

vmacosta · #7 11-20-2006, 08:35 PM

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Replace the 2s with the Kc. Same line?

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Obviously not enough info to say if its profitable or not, but it would be a much better play.

private joker · #8 11-20-2006, 08:59 PM

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why would you want to push out the limpers behind you to get it HU against a better hand? i want the people behind me to call this flop

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You're right, I misread the action and thought it was heads up when Hero called.

shemp · #9 11-20-2006, 09:09 PM

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20/40 CAZ

sb is villan. Villan is a dealer, good player, tight, fairly aggressive.

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So you're in AZ and you find yourself locking horns with a tight solid odd duty dealer? And this is, I assume, the planet earth. I don't like the turn raise. I like following through hopelessly on the river.

imashyboi · #10 11-21-2006, 02:27 AM

The turn raise as a bluff is useless in this spot. Would you fold any of your pair on that turn raise, especially when its HU? Personally, With the other limpers behind me I would call the flop. Even if someone behind you raies I think it's still a good call. Call the turn, Bet the river if check to.