The Red Sox have opened Pandora's Box...

ArtMonkRules · #1 11-20-2006, 03:46 PM

Kenny Williams (White Sox GM) has been thinking about moving a starter, and has recently said 'If they (the Red Sox) would pay that much for a guy who's never played here before, imagine what teams would pay for a player that has... instead of trading a pitcher, I may just post him'.... I think what we're seeing in baseball is the beginning of a fee-based transaction system similar to the system they use in international professional soccer leagues... do you guys think this is a good thing? While such a system would definately help get a lot more of the awesome Japanese talent to play in the states, won't it make the free-agency bidding wars get out of hand? I can just see it now... the White Sox 'sell' Jose Contreras for $30 Million, and then turn around and give Zito a 4 year, $100 Million contract... and just imagine what the Yankees will be doing with such a system!

ThaSaltCracka · #2 11-20-2006, 04:54 PM

wow, very interesting topic. I really wonder how this would work. Would teams pay a transfer fee and then have to sign the player? I know in the EPL there is no salary cap, but they also do not have revenue sharing or a luxury tax.... This would be very crazy to see...... But it could also benefit teams with high draft picks. There could be an incentive for some teams to develop players, either for themselves, or to sell. Very very interesting.

Kneel B4 Zod · #3 11-20-2006, 04:56 PM

interesting (but the Red Sox did not open the box)

ThaSaltCracka · #4 11-20-2006, 04:59 PM

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interesting (but the Red Sox did not open the box)

[/ QUOTE ]well sort of, but only to the extent that no one had ever paid that much before for a posting fee. But yeah I agree.

FlyWf · #5 11-20-2006, 05:02 PM

Kenny Williams sounds like an idiot in this anecdote, given that the single most famous baseball transaction in history was the sale of a player and the fact that teams trade AAAA guys for cash all the time. Nobody would buy Contreras for $30M.

Kneel B4 Zod · #6 11-20-2006, 05:04 PM

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interesting (but the Red Sox did not open the box)

[/ QUOTE ]well sort of, but only to the extent that no one had ever paid that much before for a posting fee. But yeah I agree.

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and it's not even the price that was paid -the fact that the posting system was already in place was the one that set up Pandoras Box. other leagues developing MLB talent was probably inevitable.

mosdef · #7 11-20-2006, 05:05 PM

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Kenny Williams sounds like an idiot in this anecdote

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Kenny sounds like an idiot every time he opens his mouth.

ThaSaltCracka · #8 11-20-2006, 05:05 PM

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the fact that the posting system was already in place was the one that set up Pandoras Box. other leagues developing MLB talent was probably inevitable.

[/ QUOTE ] So does the posting system only apply to players in foreign leagues? If not, whats to stop a team from doing it?

J.R. · #9 11-20-2006, 05:08 PM

There will be no posting system, I'm not sure why you think so. Dealing with Japanese baseball players is an entirely different animal. MLB requires the commissioner's approval of all deals when more than $1 million in cash exchanges hands in a deal.

Selig said this about the Arod deal in 04:

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"I want to make it abundantly clear to all clubs that I will not allow cash transfers of this magnitude to become the norm," Selig said.

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I agree about Williams, some should keep him from speaking in public.

ThaSaltCracka · #10 11-20-2006, 05:09 PM

what reason does selig have for not wanting this?