Smashing a nut flush draw

NB_Gambler · #1 02-01-2006, 09:05 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $1. MP3 posts a blind of $1. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 (poster) calls, CO (poster) calls, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero caps, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (32.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (27.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (33.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 33.25 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Th (one pair, sixes).
MP1 has As Ac (two pair, aces and sixes).
MP3 has 4h 5s (one pair, sixes).
CO has Ks 9s (two pair, kings and sixes).
Button has 8h 8s (two pair, eights and sixes).
Outcome: MP1 wins 33.25 BB. 

Any comments?
Turn raise correct?

Buzz-cp · #2 02-01-2006, 09:13 PM

fold pre-flop and don't raise the turn.

Arcturus · #3 02-01-2006, 09:20 PM

Why are you capping preflop???

Gregatron · #4 02-01-2006, 09:24 PM

Routine preflop fold. Seriously. That changes the whole dynamic of the rest of the hand.

Swax · #5 02-01-2006, 09:26 PM

Do not leave that table under any circumstances! God I need to start playing at Party again! Buddy list MP3, CO and button for sure.

As far as the hand goes, I'm not sure I like the turn raise. Although you did slow down MP1 and his aces, you're certainly not folding anyone and with three opponents and with your ace outs almost certainly not good I don't think it's a value bet either. I don't know that I use the free showdown raise enough - but I thought it was more for heads up with the benefit being that sometimes your opponent might fold a hand that's beating you. Don't think that applies here.

Stoo_Pot · #6 02-01-2006, 09:40 PM

Is the cap on the flop a good idea? Its going to be an expensive turn if you dont hit it.

Swax · #7 02-01-2006, 09:56 PM

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Is the cap on the flop a good idea? Its going to be an expensive turn if you dont hit it.

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I would think that NOT capping the flop would be a big mistake, right?

Stoo_Pot · #8 02-01-2006, 09:59 PM

Just interested in what the criteria is for doing so - number of players going to call? If so how many do you need?

Buzz-cp · #9 02-01-2006, 10:02 PM

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Is the cap on the flop a good idea? Its going to be an expensive turn if you dont hit it.

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OK now we're not supposed to do this, but look at the results, and plop all those hands into pokerstove, including some "random hands" for the players that dropped before showdown, and figure our equity. See how often we win, and ask yourself why we would always cap this.

SoftcoreRevolt · #10 02-01-2006, 10:03 PM

2 to be break even.