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Old 11-17-2006, 01:53 AM
dsaxton dsaxton is offline
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Default Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

No read on this player. Easy value bet or should I check?

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.60 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (6.60 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises

5th Street - (5.30 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (9.30 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

River - (11.30 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___ ?
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx

Total pot: (11.30 BB)
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:55 AM
southerndog southerndog is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.


Bet.
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Old 11-17-2006, 02:25 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

I think there's enough chance that he's on clubs that you should check, but it's close.
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:13 AM
Brad1970 Brad1970 is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

I'd slow down on the river. You only have 1 pair & he's stayed with you the whole way...just check/call.
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:52 AM
studebakerhawk studebakerhawk is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

I Check/call. After him calling the 5th raise I think it is safe to assume either still on a clubs draw or definitely a made two pair.
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

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I Check/call. After him calling the 5th raise I think it is safe to assume either still on a clubs draw or definitely a made two pair.

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i agree.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:16 PM
BTirish BTirish is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

Well, read would make the difference here. Against most passive players I'd bet/fold. I think there are more single pair hands that check behind than single pairs or missed draws that bluff when checked to. But if the player has any measure of trickiness in him and could read you for a probable pair of aces, then check/call is the better line.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:26 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

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Bet.

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reasoning?
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:24 PM
cgrohman cgrohman is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

I check. I also probably just call his raise on 3rd for reasons I am too lazy to type out at this point in time.
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:51 PM
UpstateMatt UpstateMatt is offline
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Default Re: Check or bet? $10/$20 Stud High.

This is close. I check, but i'm not confident he was on a flush draw. I think there's a good chance he has a big pair in the hole. Isn't his play completely consistent with buried QQ?

The biggest flush draw he could start with is QJ2 - i guess it's a draw with na overcard, but that's not exactly a reraising hand on 3rd here, is it?

Aside from starting with a buried pair, there's not a lot of value for a river bet here - if he had a flush draw, he didn't pair kings on 5th, so we'd be relying on him pairing queens or jacks (or Aces) on the river in order to get paid off. Unless you think he'd call down with less than a pair of jacks. (I don't).

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