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Old 11-16-2006, 03:16 AM
juiceistilted juiceistilted is offline
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Default PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t355)
UTG+1 (t3025)
MP1 (t1195)
MP2 (t1395)
CO (t1755)
Button (t2965)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1330)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t355 (All-in)</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t3025 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t1465 (All-in), <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t4890) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)


Turn: (t4890) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)


River: (t4890) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

UTG had AT and UTG+1 had AA

It is still early but UTG has been donking it up.
I just dont c any way I can fold here, UTG+1 has already dbld up and I think he might move here with a hand like AK,AQ,JJ,TT,or 99, maybe 88-55 right? I really think im right here but maybe im not? What do you guys think?
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:24 AM
Cair Paravel Cair Paravel is offline
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

Don't post results.

You're almost certainly way ahead of UTG's range, so this is really all about your read on UTG+1. I'd check the HH to see the way he doubled up, and if was donkish, I'd definitely call. Either way, I'd have a tough time folding unless I knew he was tight, because he could reasonably have 88+, AQ+, and you're in decent shape against that range.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

its often been said that the first time you can call with QQ in this spot and spots similar, and make a note on the player for next time. i wouldnt deviate from that, i think calling is fine and id make a note.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

I call here every time. Generally you need a really good read to fold QQ preflop. This is not of those situations. It's often just an isolation raise. A lot of people would do something other than shove w/ AA &amp; KK too. Don't post results.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

Yeah I'd call here. Even if he was a nit, with UTG pushing infront his shove could be seen as an isolation move w/ JJ or something.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

UTG+1 dbld up by calling a normal raise preflop flopped TT7 the other guy pushed all in into him (a huge over bet) and he called he had QTo the other guy had AQs
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

ok no more results .....why? may i ask?
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

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ok no more results .....why? may i ask?

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quite often, subconsciously or not, posters will become influenced by the results, or "results oriented" as we usually coin the phrase, and it will impact their decisions and input on hands, when infact the actual results are irrelevant to the hand analysis.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

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ok no more results .....why? may i ask?

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Because we are discussing about taking the right decisions here. And it's all about long term - you may act right but get unlucky from time to time with a move that is +EV in long term play...
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: PS60- is this a bad call i cant fold here right?

very easy call, tight ass
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