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Old 11-14-2006, 08:59 PM
Precise919 Precise919 is offline
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Default flopped flush - turn action

villian is loose - no good reads yet. whats my plan for rest of hand?
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $126.60
CO: $92.20
Button: $118.90
Hero: $108.40
BB: $134.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $19
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: flopped flush - turn action

3-bet. Anything close to a PSR. Unless you have better reads, I probably fold to a push. Kc2x-Jc2x, a worse flush, A9, 99, A2, 92, worse flushes, better flushes, probably even just some crappy dueces with no clubs. Just calling stinks, IMO.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: flopped flush - turn action

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3-bet. Anything close to a PSR. Unless you have better reads, I probably fold to a push. Kc2x-Jc2x, a worse flush, A9, 99, A2, 92, worse flushes, better flushes, probably even just some crappy dueces with no clubs. Just calling stinks, IMO.

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why does calling stink?

call and lead any non [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] river

3-betting defines the bottome end of our range very well, but tells us nothing about villain's range, as he will often just call w/ a better flush due to the paired board

i don't think villain will make the pot too big on the river if he's got a bigger flush, since he's gotta be a little worried about the paired board, so calling usually will not put us in a tough situation on the river
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: flopped flush - turn action

Well, some better reads would be nice, but most $100NL donkeys aren't getting away from a duece here, nor worse flushes (5 worse flushes, 3 bigger ones). We're ahead of his range. 3-betting is for value. Calling gives Kc2x type hands a "free" river and there are a lot of cards that we don't want to see.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:32 PM
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Well, some better reads would be nice, but most $100NL donkeys aren't getting away from a duece here, nor worse flushes (5 worse flushes, 3 bigger ones). We're ahead of his range. 3-betting is for value. Calling gives Kc2x type hands a "free" river and there are a lot of cards that we don't want to see.

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if they're not letting go of a 2, this is good, but I think they let go of most 2s to a push.... also, they let go of the flushes that we beat to a push...

that's what i think, but i could be wrong, in which case pushing is goot
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:56 PM
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I didn't say push.. I said 3-bet. Pushing seems bad. This is probably one of my weaknesses. If we pump it to $45 and he pushes, are we committed?
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: flopped flush - turn action

60$ to go.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:13 AM
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I think I call here.
If he's aggro, c/c river. If he's passive, c/f river.

What say ye? Good or shizzay.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:14 AM
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I didn't say push.. I said 3-bet. Pushing seems bad. This is probably one of my weaknesses. If we pump it to $45 and he pushes, are we committed?

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Very much so.

edit: I would probably call and try to get to sd.
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