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Old 11-14-2006, 08:05 PM
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Default Interesting river play against me

Guy who knows me and probably thinks I know what I'm doing open raises with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], I 3bet with XX, others fold. We're playing 15/30 at the Bellagio.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He checks, I bet he checkraises, I call.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
He bets, I raise, he 3bets, I think for about 5 seconds and call.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
He checks I bet he calls.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:17 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Well, I think he's scared of A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Ax. Or maybe a nut flush that you're screwplaying. My guess is that he read your hesitancy as deliberating between calling and raising, not calling and folding.

He may also think that you won't call with a hand like K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], but might get confused and bet it as a bluff.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Interesting river play against me

Bet call seems to be the only line to take here on the river.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:56 PM
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Well, I think he's scared of A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Ax. Or maybe a nut flush that you're screwplaying. My guess is that he read your hesitancy as deliberating between calling and raising, not calling and folding.

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With AcAx, Goofball's call of the turn 3-bet should have been instant. I don't think he would consider capping (spew) or folding (awful) for very long at all.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:40 PM
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Well, I think he's scared of A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Ax. Or maybe a nut flush that you're screwplaying. My guess is that he read your hesitancy as deliberating between calling and raising, not calling and folding.

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With AcAx, Goofball's call of the turn 3-bet should have been instant. I don't think he would consider capping (spew) or folding (awful) for very long at all.

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Yeah but Goofball is fully aware that his call should be instant with that hand. If I held AcAx my call certainly would not be instant.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:14 AM
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All,

What's your range for me on the turn once I pause and call the 3bet?
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:18 AM
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Nate,

If I am betting KcKx there it's for value because I when he checks the river I think he has a smaller black overpair. I'm not saying I would do that here but if I bet it it's never as a bluff


Justin,

Of course I'm capable of 'thinking' with a hand that contains the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Also if I have AcAx I'd likely be using real time to start considering my river action.
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:01 AM
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All,

What's your range for me on the turn once I pause and call the 3bet?

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Probably any non-flush hand that includes a club that you decided to raise the turn with. This includes lots of overpairs as well as high card hands.
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:46 AM
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I bet he has an overpair. I can see how he can can 3bet the turn forcing you to fold if he believes he has the best hand at this point. River seems consistant with an overpair too.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:19 PM
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You have pocket 3's. A typical bellagio 3 bet.

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