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Old 11-14-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

I called preflop because I already got too many callers for a raise. Is this correct?

What's the best action on the flop?

Holdem No Limit - 200 BB

UTG (2,720)
UTG+1 (8,100)
MP (4,170)
CO (5,520)
Button (2,310)
SB (1,810) [Hero]
BB (5,390)

Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Preflop: (7 players, 300)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 200, 2 folds, Button calls 200, Hero calls 100, BB checks

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 800)
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

Just push preflop. There's about 40% of your stack in the pot and you likely have the best hand here before the flop. They will all fold a large majority of the time. If not you have a good hand that is probably a coinflip at worst vs one caller and plenty of overlay to make it a very +EV shove.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

Your call preflop was standard.

I lead this flop every single time with the intent of getting it all in ASAP. I'd bet about 600. 9 times out of 10 one of your opponents has an ace and will go to the felt with it. You just want to get his money in before he makes a higher full house than you, and hope he doesn't do it after the money goes in either. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

This is a PERFECT opportunity to win a huge pot.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

How about pushing on the flop, hoping somebody calls with an ace (pretending we have a flushdraw here)

How about slow playing and just checking and hoping for somebody drawing dead for a flushdraw or having an ace?
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

Bet 500-600 and hope someone has an ace or is on a flush draw. If you don't get a call/reraise here your probably not getting anymore action anyway so there is really no reason to slowplay.

FWIW this looks like a good hand to push pre-flop to me.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

Pushing preflop is good. I generally bet here to build to build the pot against aces and draws which are always calling but given the size of the pot it shouldn't be too difficult to get all your chips in by the river, check or bet.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

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How about pushing on the flop, hoping somebody calls with an ace (pretending we have a flushdraw here)

How about slow playing and just checking and hoping for somebody drawing dead for a flushdraw or having an ace?

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Fine if they have an ace, oh, well if they don't. Since you don't know that, it's not horrible to let 3 other players' FD get there. you can risk peeling off a street, get the money in. If two opponents want to go to war, they both have A's, and basically have 6 outs between them. If flop action's tepid, or checked all around, shove turn.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

Thanks guys, that makes sense.

I basically just called preflop because of UTG+1's big stack. I'll consider pushing next time.

I still won the hand though (of course [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] )
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Full House on flop as SB - multiway pot

I'd push pre-flop as well.

As played, I'd only bet out 400, to make sure that any flush draws have what they think is great odds to call.
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