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Old 11-14-2006, 09:55 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Hypothetical observation hand while observing friend..

ok, so lets pretend im watching a buddy play a sesh or whatever. a hand comes up, something like.. 25-50, 6k effective. HU friend repots bb with QQ, button calls. flop JT4, friend bets 650, button calls. turn J, friend checks, button instabets 1600, friend calls. river 2, friend checks, button shoves 3400. ok, now heres where the situation arises.. hes contemplating fold, and i say ill take half of the call, i think hes bluffing KQ or something, so friend clicks call, and wins. now, am i entitled to half of the 3400 bet, so 1700, or half of the whole pot, so like 6k? i was confused on what is supposed to happen here, as i thought i was sposed to get 6k and friend thought i was sposed to get 1700. anyways, thoughts, etc welcome. plz vote. holla

edit: i should make it semi clear that he said that he wasnt sure if he was folding or not. he was thinking, and hadnt made a choice as to what to do yet, then i interrupted and said id take half. i duno if that changes things. he wasnt clicking fold though. was still debating. holla
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:01 AM
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wtf, half the pot of course. that's the whole point of you taking half his action on the call: because you think pot odds in relation to % of time QQ is good is +ev, yada yada. if you were getting 1:1 you don't take that action.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:08 AM
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wtf, half the pot of course. that's the whole point of you taking half his action on the call: because you think pot odds in relation to % of time QQ is good is +ev, yada yada. if you were getting 1:1 you don't take that action.

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Old 11-14-2006, 10:08 AM
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You said you'll take half the call. I think that would mean only half the river bet.

Aside from that by the way, it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:11 AM
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wtf, half the pot of course. that's the whole point of you taking half his action on the call: because you think pot odds in relation to % of time QQ is good is +ev, yada yada. if you were getting 1:1 you don't take that action.

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Old 11-14-2006, 10:15 AM
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Aside from that by the way, it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.

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halfway thru the post i thought it was gonna be an ethics question.

there's no "one player to a hand" rule in online poker, so i don't think it's necessarily cheating. this would def fall into a gray area though.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:17 AM
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Aside from that by the way, it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.

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halfway thru the post i thought it was gonna be an ethics question.

there's no "one player to a hand" rule in online poker, so i don't think it's necessarily cheating. this would def fall into a gray area though.

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pokerstars specifically states that there is no 1 player to a hand rule. i wasnt aware i was breaking any rules. holla
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:18 AM
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Aside from that by the way, it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.

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halfway thru the post i thought it was gonna be an ethics question.

there's no "one player to a hand" rule in online poker, so i don't think it's necessarily cheating. this would def fall into a gray area though.

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lets call the ethics committee in to deal w/ this one, ship it to BBV?
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:21 AM
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Aside from that by the way, it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.

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halfway thru the post i thought it was gonna be an ethics question.

there's no "one player to a hand" rule in online poker, so i don't think it's necessarily cheating. this would def fall into a gray area though.

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pokerstars specifically states that there is no 1 player to a hand rule. i wasnt aware i was breaking any rules. holla

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Oh, sorry - guess I was mistaken. Anyway, did you not say that you will take half of the call? If that is what you said, I would think you get half the river bet only.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:24 AM
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Neither arrangement makes much sense. So don't do this.

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it is cheating to help your buddy with a decision to call like that.

[/ QUOTE ]I think you're wrong. It's a staking deal, albeit with poorly considered terms and a very short lifespan.
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