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Old 11-12-2006, 02:01 AM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

Yeah, do we VB here? Basically the worst card in the deck. How much are you betting, and do you call a push?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $53.85
UTG+1: $116.34
CO: $251.85
Hero: $111
SB: $124.95
BB: $41.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($11.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $27</font>, CO calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($83.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

Reads?

I think you can still get some value out of QJ-AJ from more passive players. I'd throw 35-40 out there.

If villain is more aggressive/solid, a check is probably best.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

Stats on CO? I probably fold to a push. 50/50 on whether I bet the river, really depends on the player. I could see him checking a flush being scared of the boat. If I bet I bet $40-50.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

I don't think he checks that river with a hand that we beat too often.. I bet 55.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

I push. qj.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

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I push. qj.

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Completely disagree. If you're gonna bet the river just bet half the pot or so and eek out value.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

I really don't spew all that much, but no one trusts my bets ever. Maybe works better for me than others.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

Sorry if I came across like an azz, I just think it'd be easier for villain to call a smallish bet rather than the pot. Not saying river push is a spew. However, he might as well just shove (missed river stack size).
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:00 AM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

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I don't think he checks that river with a hand that we beat too often.. I bet 55.

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You mean a hand that has us beat, right?

And I assume you are all calling a push after Vb'ing river?
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: I\'m like negreanu on HSP, flopped straight, river terrible

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I don't think he checks that river with a hand that we beat too often.. I bet 55.

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You mean a hand that has us beat, right?

And I assume you are all calling a push after Vb'ing river?

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Yeah.. my bad.

Given stacks, I think we have to call a push, but I don't think we see a push that often here.
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