Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > High Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-12-2006, 12:42 AM
HIV HIV is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: grim broke? thats an oxymoron
Posts: 1,094
Default A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

Hero is ~2500$ deep, and so is everyone else involved in this hand...

$10-$20 $2000 max NL holdem
Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG limps, MP limps, SB raises to $120, Hero(BB) calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop is T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB bets 380$. Hero calls $380. UTG pushes ~$2200. Now MP cold calls all in for ~$2200!. SB folds, can hero fold the nuts here?

Ok, I agree it is ridiculous, but lets put them on two very specific hands, a set and not a set.

UTG is the type of player who would cold call a set here, his push means one thing, HUGE combo draw, at least 67cc, more likely J9cc or QJcc.

MP has a set, pretty obviously from how long it took him to call. Probably top set.

Running the numbers in two dimes.
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing Tc 8c 6h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9h 7h 294 32.56 609 67.44 0 0.00 0.326
Qc Jc 299 33.11 604 66.89 0 0.00 0.331
8s 8d 310 34.33 593 65.67 0 0.00 0.343


Is hero getting odds to call with the "worst hand" which is actually the best hand at the time, but this is such a rare situation where two people have already committed their money to this hand..

Please let me know your opinion.


I ask you to PLEASE reply to this hand neglecting the possibility that they both have sets. Lets just say I have a really really strong read here that at LEAST one of them is on a combo draw, but not neccesarrily both of them.

PS. This hand actually happened, every word is true, and it is very interesting what actually happened, I def. plan to post results.
  #2  
Old 11-12-2006, 12:45 AM
BradleyHolland BradleyHolland is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 76
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

EZ fold.
  #3  
Old 11-12-2006, 12:46 AM
AZK AZK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: medical school
Posts: 6,450
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

el d posted a similiar hand a while back. yawn
  #4  
Old 11-12-2006, 12:52 AM
multious multious is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,941
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

HOW ARENT YOU BROKE YET
  #5  
Old 11-12-2006, 12:59 AM
alphatmw alphatmw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,348
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

i don't get it. you gave it the worst possible scenario, found out you had odds to call, and ask if we fold here?
  #6  
Old 11-12-2006, 01:11 AM
HIV HIV is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: grim broke? thats an oxymoron
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

Could you guys please have some respect. I'm asking you to evaluate the hand with the ASSUMPTION you have a VERY strong read here. Let's just say these two players wouldn't make this play with anything else.


Now please, could you honestly give me your opinion on this hand.
  #7  
Old 11-12-2006, 01:11 AM
Tony.T Tony.T is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 569
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

[ QUOTE ]
i don't get it. you gave it the worst possible scenario, found out you had odds to call, and ask if we fold here?

[/ QUOTE ]
  #8  
Old 11-12-2006, 01:25 AM
Daliman Daliman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Wongs are two things, (at least).
Posts: 10,376
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

This isn't Omaha, and I even if it were, I suspect a case could be made for calling.

As it stands this is a laughably easy call.
  #9  
Old 11-12-2006, 01:36 AM
multious multious is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,941
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

you are getting easy odds to call in the worst possible scenario?!?!?
  #10  
Old 11-12-2006, 01:37 AM
alphatmw alphatmw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,348
Default Re: A hand I didn\'t neccesarrily play, but interesting situation

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i don't get it. you gave it the worst possible scenario, found out you had odds to call, and ask if we fold here?

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.