live - 2/5 foxwoods

ob1 · #1 11-11-2006, 06:56 PM

2/5 no limit at foxwoods. 5 handed table full of old tight donks. i am by far the loosest player at the table with people always giving me dirty looks for raising every pot etc. after 2 hours they are getting sick of it and collectively looking to make a stand. villan has been tight and kept out of pots with me. my image makes this hard. table looks like this

seat # 1 : donk
2 : villan
3 : donk
4 : donk
5 : me

folded to me, i raise on the c/o with 22 to $25. villan in BB thinks then raises to $70. I have 1200, villan covers. I call the flop is :

Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
villan bets $125 (??), i raise to $350, villan calls

Turn : A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

villan checks, i check behind.

River 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villan open pushes - I.......???

TheJared · #2 11-11-2006, 07:00 PM

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Throw up and then call? If you feel they are actually gunning for you this could be a lot of two pair hands. I'm not folding this without a solid read. Could be a busted draw as well. AQ, AT, busted flush draw are all in his range here. Not sure why you aren't betting this turn.

Btw, hello KJ.

duh · #3 11-11-2006, 07:22 PM

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5 handed table full of old tight donks.

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fold.. KJ fo sho (with small possibility of overset)

oyvindgee · #4 11-11-2006, 07:25 PM

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Villan open pushes - I.......???

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Beat him into the pot.

Edit: I didn't realize there were two broadways on the flop. Still think Icall, but it's closer.

dtan05 · #5 11-11-2006, 07:27 PM

am i the only one that raises more on flop or is this stupid?

e_phemeral · #6 11-11-2006, 08:08 PM

I would have bet the turn. If he has KJ, he is calling or raising your turn bet. Still, given your description of the table dynamics, I think you have to close your eyes and call on the river. You could be up against 2 pair. I think the amount of the flop raise was fine.

ob1 · #7 11-11-2006, 08:52 PM

i just could not see him 3 betting KJ against an unpredictable lag OOP. thoughts? BTW i ended up folding. he had qq

i checked the turn because i thought he had turned a set of aces, plus the obv. kj draw got there

BobboFitos · #8 11-11-2006, 08:55 PM

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i just could not see him 3 betting KJ against an unpredictable lag OOP. thoughts? BTW i ended up folding. he had qq

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yes, he will have KJ here never, sucks you didnt have KJ, then you could slowroll and be like, 'oh hey nice set, but i have a str8'

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real nice fold, btw. thats a tough laydown.

BobboFitos · #9 11-11-2006, 08:53 PM

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2/5 no limit at foxwoods. 5 handed table full of old tight donks. i am by far the loosest player at the table with people always giving me dirty looks for raising every pot etc. after 2 hours they are getting sick of it and collectively looking to make a stand. villan has been tight and kept out of pots with me. my image makes this hard. table looks like this

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omg this sounds like so much fun, i want i want

bet the turn

hmm, you can actually consider folding, but he doesnt have KJ (these guys dont repop that) so is it AA QQ TT,... or AQ?

I doubt they're making a stand here... I just dont think I can fold a set ever, this decision is close, but close your eyes and call.

AAismyfriend · #10 11-11-2006, 09:07 PM

In my experience vs old nits in the FW 2/5 game, very few of them are repopping AQ preflop, especially from the blinds. I think the river decision is very close. I think we can eliminate KJ from his range, and AKspades is never openshoving river. I think the only hand he has here that we beat is AQ and I think a higher set is much more likely. Any physical reads on this guy would help. Di he shove instantly? Does he look confident? Nice fold here BTW, not sure if I could have layed this down here.