AKs from Button: Default ABC advice needed

[Hellmouth]

.10/.25 NL on Full Tilt. 6max.

Villian is the BB and has only played one or two hands and I have no history on him. My table image is a little loose but I cant expect that he knows this since he just sat. He may have watched me win one pot with a continuation bet on the flop.

I am on the button with AKc. One person is sitting out and I it is folded to me. I raise 4xBB to $1.

SB Folds, BB raises to $4. He has $6 left in his stack.

In my mind he must not be a great or knowledgable player since he only bought in for $10. To me this seems like a situation where getting it all in before the flop with AKs (ala NLT&P) might be applicable. However, I felt since the implied odds sucked (aka villian doesn't have much behind so I either double him up when I am behind to AA KK etc) or I don't win much.

I folded. However I don't think that this is at all the best play, I just wasn't sure whether or not to push, call or fold.

Edit: I guess what I am trying to say is, I want to get my money in with the best hand but am not sure that I have the best hand here. Is that retarded? Is this a push that any monkey but me can make?

How would you play it?
Greg

[MrMxyztplk]

Since you have no history, I'd usually be inclined to push, especially when there's dead-money on the table (beyond just the blinds).

[Jigsaws]

Either push or fold. For 40BBs I push. Good for metagame.

[TyFuji]

push push push push .10/.25 donks call all day with AQ and AJ and often with even wackier holdings

[Hellmouth]

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push push push push .10/.25 donks call all day with AQ and AJ and often with even wackier holdings

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At what level do we give this guy credit for a big pocket pair?

Greg

[rebuyboy]

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Either push or fold. For 100 BBs I push. Good for metagame.

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[Hellmouth]

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Either push or fold. For 100 BBs I push. Good for metagame.

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Doesn't this introduce significant varience into your BR?

Greg

[Hellmouth]

Ive been running some pokerstove simulations to see where to draw the line here.

It looks like with the dead money in even the tightest range is close to 50/50. Anything even slightly looser is a push easily.

vs QQ+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 55.1977 % 43.17% 12.03% { AcKc }
Hand 2: 44.8023 % 32.77% 12.03% { QQ+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

The only time it looks bad is if I isolate villian to very strong suited hands and High PP's. Taking out AKo and AQo
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.2928 % 40.58% 06.72% { AcKc }
Hand 2: 52.7072 % 45.99% 06.72% { QQ+, AQs+, KQs }

Even here with the money already in the pot it looks like a coin flip.

But look what happens if I assume that Villian has AKs or better.
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.0823 % 17.45% 14.63% { AcKc }
Hand 2: 67.9177 % 53.29% 14.63% { KK+, AKs }

If I add in QQ,JJ this drops down to 60% against my 40%.

Here we are clearly a dog to AA,KK,AKs. Since the action indicates a very big hand can we really assume this is a push?

Greg

[Innocent Kitty]

Your ranges for a typical 25NL player are way too tight IMO.

[Hellmouth]

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Your ranges for a typical 25NL player are way too tight IMO.

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I guess thats what I'm trying to flush out. I put the player on exactly AA, KK and folded. I think now that that is premature.

Greg