[02$ NL - FR] The Pain, The Pain...

DannieUke · #1 11-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Did they put something in the water coolers at the penny tables? I'm running so cold that I'm starting to think I should go back to playing chess. Having paid off so many donks I'm now trigger sketchy when they come over the top of me -- folding when I likely should call, or worse jamming the AI bar to max when I should fold my tail between my legs...

So, two thoughts:

1. Theory Type Hand

No real reads here, since this is a made-up scenario -- but, hey, I play at the penny table where the play is loose and weak and the wine is actually Kool-Aid...

Made-Up Poker Room
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Protagonist is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button raises to $0.04, SB folds, Protagonist calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.25, 6 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Button bets $0.25. Me???

I know what to do in "theory" at a limit table -- raise -- but do I even want to try to pare down the field? Call? Fold?

2. Practice Type Hand

No reads here either on Villain -- we've been playing only about a half hour and this is the first time he's really got my attention...

(Sorry I dropped the stacks from the output -- but suffice it to say I have Villain covered...)

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Protagonist is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Protagonist raises to $0.06, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.18, 3 players)
BB checks, Protagonist bets $0.10, BB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.38, 2 players)
BB bets $0.10, Protagonist raises to $0.20, BB raises to $1.14 (all-in), Protagonist???

Maybe Canasta...

Triggerle · #2 11-10-2006, 03:32 PM

Hand 1:

I don't want to play 87 out of position against 6 opponents, one of which has raised pre-flop. I fold pre-flop.

As played I fold the flop. Middle pair no kicker against a raise with 4 to act is not a hand I want to continue.

Hand 2:

Why raise turn? And why min-raise? As played I fold. Wait until he makes his move when you actually have a hand.

kitaristi0 · #3 11-10-2006, 07:13 PM

Hand 1 - PF is fine, flop is an easy fold.

Hand 2 - Bet a bit more on the flop, like $0.12-$0.15. If I raise the turn I raise it to $0.40. Minraising gives him immediate odds to call with any draw (except a gutshot). If he calls my turn raise I'm checking behind on the river unless I hit a K.

kabouter · #4 11-10-2006, 07:49 PM

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Hand 1:

I don't want to play 87 out of position against 6 opponents, one of which has raised pre-flop. I fold pre-flop.

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Why? A 1xbb raise in a multiway pot, seems like a good time to play suited connectors. If you don't hit anything (like here), just get out...

About running cold, the last 2 days have been terrible for me I dropped like $125, so I'm moving down in stakes now (from $25nl to $10nl), but I'm afraid that is not possible at the 0,02 stakes...
You should be able to beat them though, if you just play tight... It's probably bad luck

Triggerle · #5 11-10-2006, 09:48 PM

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Hand 1:

I don't want to play 87 out of position against 6 opponents, one of which has raised pre-flop. I fold pre-flop.

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Why? A 1xbb raise in a multiway pot, seems like a good time to play suited connectors. If you don't hit anything (like here), just get out...

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It's a 4xbb raise. Sure, we have to call only 3 from the BB but still. I'm not saying that this is a -EV call but the game at these levels offers many much better situations that a beginner can pass on this. If you feel you can outplay them postflop with 87 then by any means call.