am i an idiot?

PokerBob · #1 11-10-2006, 06:08 AM

villain here is 50/28/1.6 in 100 hands. flame away.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.35
PokerBob: $149.45
Button: $110
SB: $158.65
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) PokerBob is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $3, PokerBob raises to $12, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, PokerBob bets $17, UTG calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, PokerBob checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $25, PokerBob calls.

Results:
Final pot: $109.5

Lego05 · #2 11-10-2006, 06:13 AM

I like it.

Spy Dog · #3 11-10-2006, 06:13 AM

This looks fine to me. 3 broadways by the turn means your TPTK is significantly weakened, so getting to showdown cheaply is good by checking behind.

We call the river for the same reasons we checked behind on the turn. Raising is too dangerous because it would be hard to fold to a push by this type of player.

Jay Riall · #4 11-10-2006, 06:13 AM

Eugh. Crap board for your hand. Gotta call the river though getting better than 1 in 3. I would check this flop a lot.

Spy Dog · #5 11-10-2006, 06:17 AM

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I think this is a fairly large mistake. We really don't want gutshots/flush draws to get a freebie here. AQ/QQ/44 is all we really fear and he has Ax/2 broadways/flush draw waaaay more than the hands that beat us. I bet this flop and am willing to get it AI versus this opponent.

Our goal in this hand is to value bet the flop and continue value betting the turn if it's a brick, so that we can stack Ax.

mason55 · #6 11-10-2006, 06:24 AM

flop check is bad. hand is fine.

Jay Riall · #7 11-10-2006, 06:26 AM

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flop check is bad. hand is fine.

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Why?

nitramee · #8 11-10-2006, 07:08 AM

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flop check is bad. hand is fine.

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Why?

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Villan is a donk, we must extract value right there.We beat his range and flop is full on draws, so checking here is not correct.

PokerBob · #9 11-10-2006, 03:13 PM

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villain here is 50/28/1.6 in 100 hands. flame away.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.35
PokerBob: $149.45
Button: $110
SB: $158.65
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) PokerBob is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $3, PokerBob raises to $12, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, PokerBob bets $17, UTG calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, PokerBob checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $25, PokerBob calls.

Results:
Final pot: $109.5

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I hated the turn, but wanted to get to SD, so I thought my line was OK. Villain had K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Meh.

Haiku · #10 11-10-2006, 03:16 PM

Against good players a flop check is fine, against this guy I'd bet.