2007 Pokerbot World Championship

[RayBornert]

2007 Pokerbot World Championship (PBWC)

Hello 2+2,

My name is Ray Bornert.
I will be hosting the first ever
Pokerbot World Championship
in 2007-Sep on the Carnival
Valor out of Miami, FL

Here is the Official PBWC forum
*link deleted*

You can see digital pictures of the actual venue in the
"event details - where and when" thread at the link above

The PBWC is a live digital event.
The entire tournament will take place
on a closed LAN inside the Capital
Room on the cruise ship in international
waters.

A laptop is required in order to compete.

Both human players and pokerbot players
will be accepted as paying entrants.

Nobody will be paid to play.
Everyone will pay an entry fee.
There will be an operators fee.
(just like any normal live b&m tourny)

This is a live real money b&m tournament
in every possible way.

I am precluded from competing as well
as my family and close friends.

We will be using the Poker Professional (PPRO)
live digital platform, for which we will be
seeking certification in the state of Nevada.
The entire PPRO client/server is freely available
for public download at the link above. This will
give the general public time to understand
the overall experience.

I expect to make the PPRO communication protocol
public knowledge sometime within the next few months
which will allow any type of laptop to be used regardless
of the chipset and/or operating system. This is the only
way to have a legitimate "World" championship.

I need to once more re-emphasize that this is a live
digital event. You must be physically present. The
internet is not involved in anyway insofar as the
actual tournament mechanics are concerned.

The PBWC event is essentially composed of
12 title tournament events based on the size
of the entry fee and the limit type.

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It is my sincere desire to have strong b&amp;m players
compete in this historical event. And it goes without
saying that some of the very best players in the
world of Hold'em are 2+2'ers.

Thank your for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Ray Bornert

[Mark Collins]

It would be pretty cool if you made this Bots-only, and had them play the hands as quickly as they possibly could (no pausing). You could get in a million hands per level.

[RayBornert]

mark,

the thing you describe deserves consideration in it's own way but not in the context of the pbwc.

your hyper-fast event would be better suited for a university math department contest or an acm contest.

the pbwc is about human beings including professional pokerbotters.

in the context of a televised broadcast, nobody wants
to see cold hard computers sitting around playing 1
hand per second - that's about as exciting as watching
grass grow. but from a pure academic pov it is an
interesting idea.

the pbwc is nothing without the human component.

ray

[steamboatin]

Okay, I am a little slow so I will need a little help.

If I am a successful pokerbot operator and I have a profitable venture, why would I show up at a live event where I could get outed to the poker sites that will shut me down if I am caught?

I could understand if a college sponsered a pokerbot from their AI lab, that never played for real money, etc. I think a pokerbot operator would be nuts to show up at your event unless the prize pool is astronomical.

Feel free to enlighten, beause I am clueless.

[RayBornert]

steam,

that is definitely an issue for a profitable pro botter
that is still using online account(s) registered with his real world info.

however, i must ask you this:

do you think online sites will persecute pbwc entrants?

or

do you think they'll embrace the event and hold their own
qualifiers at their site where the prize is a 7 day cruise
to the caribbean and an entry in a $10k title event?

which is better business for them?
which is better for the players?

ray

[IronFly]

Edit: My earlier post was incorrect.

Artifical intelligence groups have a poker bot competition, here's a link: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~pokert/

Perhaps some of these groups would be interested in playing your tournament.

[RayBornert]

iron,

all well and good.
that's a perfectly fine endeavor.

however, i'm interested in seeing a live b&amp;m tournament
where pro human players enter and pro botter players
enter - with the full knowledge that both types of
competitors can and do play online for real money.

that is a television spectator sport type of media
worthy event.

such an event makes it possible for the top ranked
pro competitors to win laptop advertising contracts
from the major name brands much like an nba player
might get a shoe contract.

so while i think acedemic pursuits are fine,
i prefer to be involved with the commercial aspects.

ray.

[RayBornert]

iron,

and we fully expect them to.
basically they are waiting for the ppro
communication protocol to go public so
they can write the client layer they need.

if you read the wired mag article of last year,
you'll see a quote in there about one of those
guys that wants the experience of seeing his
bot raise $100k against a human pro.

the pbwc will make that possible.

ray

[steamboatin]

[ QUOTE ]
do you think online sites will persecute pbwc entrants?



[/ QUOTE ]

I thik they will shut themdown in a heartbeat. You need to go start this thread in the Zoo. Wear your flame retardent underwear because you but will be flamed.

They are serious bot hunters in the Zoo. (Zoo=Internet Gambling Forum)

I consider pokerbots to be cheaters.

[RayBornert]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
do you think online sites will persecute pbwc entrants?



[/ QUOTE ]

I thik they will shut themdown in a heartbeat. You need to go start this thread in the Zoo. Wear your flame retardent underwear because you but will be flamed.

They are serious bot hunters in the Zoo. (Zoo=Internet Gambling Forum)

I consider pokerbots to be cheaters.

[/ QUOTE ]

that's already been done:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7987296

but mat wants that thread locked and rightfully so.

the pbwc is a live digital event and the announcement
properly belongs here in the b&amp;m section of the forum
simply because you must be physically present to play
just like any other b&amp;m tournament.

ray.