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Old 11-09-2006, 09:52 AM
kash munni kash munni is offline
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Default Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

The new legislation has me looking into BM play. Currently I am 4-12 tabling .5/1 NL and 1/2 NL online. I have no clue how to calulate a realisitc win rate for the 1/2 casino game I am looking to start out in (without having to log a ton of hours).
The Game:
-Very Soft (I would compare it to a .05/.10 or .10/.25 online game)
-$100 Max Buy-in
-1/2 blinds (NO LIMIT)
-10% rake, $5 max
-about 30 hand per hour
-Windsor Casino (Canada)
-Playing atleast 10-12 hours per session (prob. more)

Whats a realistic $/hr for this type of game?
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

2 dollars an hour. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Honestly you might find some good posts on this with search there are 1000's of 1/2 NL win rate posts ... I think

My win rate over 400k hands in 1/2 NL is -3 dollars an hour.
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Now I only play 1-3 stud at the el cortez
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

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Honestly you might find some good posts on this with search there are 1000's of 1/2 NL win rate posts ... I think


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I don't need 1/2 NL winrates for online play where people just multitable because that is what I am doing right now and have a realistic winrate. What I need is a winrate for a BM game which means im playing like 30 hands an hour compared to 500 hands an hour online.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

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Honestly you might find some good posts on this with search there are 1000's of 1/2 NL win rate posts ... I think


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I don't need 1/2 NL winrates for online play where people just multitable because that is what I am doing right now and have a realistic winrate. What I need is a winrate for a BM game which means im playing like 30 hands an hour compared to 500 hands an hour online.

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There are prob a lot of opinions on this Like I said the search on B&M might turn up something.
It's hard to come up with a steady winrate because most people at a low limit 1/2 game don't take notes.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

Over my last 100 hours at $1-2 NLHE in casino (so approx 3,000 hands), I am winning at a rate of approximately $17/hour. This is a $1-2 game with a $5 time charge every half hour, so $10 an hour to the casino. Used to be $100 max buyin, recently changed to $300 max buyin, which makes the game a lot more interesting.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

search for my name over the past 2 months. I think we discussed this a couple weeks ago or a month ago.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

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The new legislation has me looking into BM play. Currently I am 4-12 tabling .5/1 NL and 1/2 NL online. I have no clue how to calulate a realisitc win rate for the 1/2 casino game I am looking to start out in (without having to log a ton of hours).
The Game:
-Very Soft (I would compare it to a .05/.10 or .10/.25 online game)
-$100 Max Buy-in
-1/2 blinds (NO LIMIT)
-10% rake, $5 max
-about 30 hand per hour
-Windsor Casino (Canada)
-Playing atleast 10-12 hours per session (prob. more)

Whats a realistic $/hr for this type of game?

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The $100 max buy-in and $5 rake are really, really bad for your hourly rate. A good $1/2 NL game should earn a good player about 5-10 big blinds per hour, but since this game is a dollar heavy on the rake and $100 light on the max buy-in, I would say a good player could beat it for about $6 an hour.

This estimate is based on my conversations with low limit grinders in the NL games here in Vegas, and my experience in the 2/5 and 5/10 games which often play as soft as a 1/2 game.

Irieguy
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

Oh, also, the Greektown games are a lot more lively than the Windsor games. I played in both in September during a trip to Detroit. I don't remember the rake at Greektown, but they had a couple $1/3 NL games with a $300 max buy-in and that game was beatable for $30/hr easy.

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Old 11-09-2006, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Realistic Win Rate for 1/2 BM game

Currently I'm making €30 an hour. Each pot is raked, and the game is very fast so we prob get more than 30 an hour in. It's no max buy-in, pot limit.
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:47 PM
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$6/half hour time charge at Greektown. They have $200 and $100 max buyins. The $100 max won't let you reload until you're broke. I think you can reload at $200 anytime. At Motor City the time charge is the same and has a $200 max buyin, but you can't reload until you're below $50...which kind of sucks
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